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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black it's your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need alliance help to get to the year

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you are listening to fade to black with

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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today's monday october 4 2021

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276 days into the new year only 89 days

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left let's do this

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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now you guys have seen it

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so now you know it may be a total

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undisclosed location

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but you have seen

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that it is beautiful it's great in here

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it's great

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see now when you see me look around you

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you know now now you get a vibe

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now you get a vibe i would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr and the

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game changer network i'm your host jimmy

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what is cracking everybody

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now uh i i've got to get straight to it

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tonight i want to uh i'm going to make a

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quick announcement

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uh for everybody here but um

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bane to black is leaving kgra

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our last show is scheduled for october

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they may pull us down before then that's

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the notice that has been sent out from

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october 13th it's up to them if they

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want to carry the show through october

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we have some other announcements that

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will be happening very soon

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um sometime after october 13th okay and

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we will make those announcements

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um it doesn't really affect our

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programming here we are out uh streaming

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uh all around the world on many

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platforms but if uh

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if you want to come and find the show

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after october 13th

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if you can hear me now over at kgra i

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you can go straight to

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jimmychurchradio.com head straight there

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all of our syndication is listed you can

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also listen to the show live uh for free

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every night over at jimmychurchradio.com

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all right so that announcement has been

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kevin day is here now um

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we are going to discuss the nimitz event

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banky drew banky is here

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tomorrow night for a full evening of

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plant medicines and e.t

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that's tomorrow night

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wednesday night grant cameron is back

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book and a host of other

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now and grant cameron joins us all right

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i will be at the star works usa ufos

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above and beyond conference this

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november 12th through the 14th in

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laughlin nevada at the aquarius hotel

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and casino with jacques vale paul

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heineck grant ham grant cameron colin

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andrews jaime moussan and 10 other

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amazing speakers tickets and info at

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right there head over to star works we

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will see you next month in person

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in laughlin nevada you can follow me on

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f2b is the sandbox right there on

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facebook is back up now you thought i

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facebook is still done mark zuckerberg

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some major financial consequences

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as well as this number five richest man

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ranking in the world

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uh facebook was down today for seven

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some snafu this was

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and as techy as facebook can be taken

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down and they were taken down today for

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seven hours all right a giant 3d printed

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copy of michelangelo's famous statue of

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to adhere to strict public nudity laws

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laser scans of the sculpture and coated

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academia gallery in florence italy

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that's right

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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alicia silverstone is 44.

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we'll always make the list

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because of clueless

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one of the greatest movies ever made

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susan sarandon today is 74.

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russell simmons today is 63 and one of

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the greats

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triumph drummer gilmore today

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is 68 years old gil gil runs to school

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now an audio school a video school a

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recording school an academy a college

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up in canada gilmore is absolutely

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amazing happy birthday gil

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on this day in history

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otd

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the soviet union starts the space age

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with the launch of its sputnik

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the world's first artificial satellite

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all right let's get to the fader fact

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we've all heard these stories

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here's your fader fact

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michael carroll

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an english garbage man

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won the uk national lottery in 2002

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for 10 million pounds that is 25 million

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in today's money

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he lost all of it

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he threw it away

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is your fader fact all right

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tonight

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for the first time

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why am i texting during the show

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kevin day joins us tonight for the first

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time we are discussing the nimitz event

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tomorrow night drew banke is here for a

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late night uh a night

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for a late night for a night of plant

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medicine and e.t

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and then wednesday night grant cameron

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is here got lots of stuff to talk about

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we're also going to discuss his new book

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and uh thursday is another fader night

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with open lines all night long now um

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you know what i'm just going to do this

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i'm just going to bring it right in

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on the line from a super secret location

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rumor is

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he was just texting me that he's out

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running right now

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the men in black to make sure

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that he calls in

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to fade to black

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how's that going for you lou did you

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lose the tail

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hey jimmy how are you man uh actually

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somewhere

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uh between let's see where the hell am i

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i'm in missouri somewhere

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and uh i won't tell you why i'm here and

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how the hell i got here but uh but yeah

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you're right we're calling you from a um

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a fairly remote location how are you

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doing i am fantastic and uh you know

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this is the thing uh before we get we've

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got too much to discuss uh uh right now

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lou and i appreciate

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uh you uh risking life and limb uh to

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come on the show tonight

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um but um uh

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actually i'm sacrificing my beer time

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you know

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i'll i'll take that compliment

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lou this is this is the deal with your

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past training

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do you get to go to driving school do

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you get do you go do you evasive crazy

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james bond but you know what they they

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give you 15 and this is no joke they

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actually will give you if you go to like

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dsr training where we go

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they give you like 15

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off of your auto insurance but

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ironically enough they should be

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charging you an extra 15

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because what they teach you are are

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really skills that you don't want to use

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every day every day in traffic

289
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and you find yourself wanting to use

290
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them whether it's a pit stop or you know

291
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a reverse j-turn so yeah i haven't quite

292
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figured out why they give us that

293
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discount um it seems a bit

294
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counterproductive to me they should

295
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probably up our premiums but uh you know

296
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but they don't you know what uh one of

297
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my favorite things that they always show

298
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right some secret agent out running uh

299
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you know uh 20 cars you know he's

300
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driving in reverse and they always have

301
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the shot of the emergency brake grab

302
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right

303
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and the car flips around

304
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are you one of those guys do you grab

305
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the emergency brake

306
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you want to use that when you're moving

307
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forward so if you when you're going to

308
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do a 180 yeah and you come up to let's

309
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say uh uh well

310
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i said say an ambush but a whole line of

311
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traffic and you got to turn the other

312
00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:43,280
way yeah you want to make sure that that

313
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emergency brake works good you know a

314
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lot of people unfortunately

315
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most of our emergency brakes don't work

316
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really well but uh in those vehicles

317
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they do um you know they yeah they teach

318
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all sorts of all sorts of great i think

319
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i burned through probably three

320
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transmissions and

321
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two sets of tires in the first day and

322
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uh you know those poor cars

323
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it takes so much abuse well i can assure

324
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you

325
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i i will never go through a mcdonald's

326
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drive-through with lou elizondo ain't

327
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gonna happen all right lou um uh uh uh

328
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uh just uh it's just uh uh for

329
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disclosure

330
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um to the audience uh lou and i have

331
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been in touch um off and on over the

332
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last uh

333
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uh four or five days and um and we were

334
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uh the first opportunity to get lou on

335
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fade to black was tonight

336
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and even as

337
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uh

338
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the day things

339
00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:43,200
this is a very fluid situation that

340
00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:45,520
we're in and we've got uh updates

341
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happening all the time so let's back up

342
00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:52,640
and i want you to take us through

343
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uh the five pages which you briefly

344
00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:58,960
you addressed it somewhat on tucker

345
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without saying what the five pages were

346
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:02,400
or getting into it i'm sure tucker

347
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:06,320
didn't read them uh maybe he did but um

348
00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:09,120
what what is going on

349
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with the uap task force right now

350
00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,799
jimmy honestly i i'm telling you from

351
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the bottom of my heart this is historic

352
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this is a result

353
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of every single person out there that's

354
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:21,600
listening to your broadcast

355
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:23,760
those people who got got energized and

356
00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:26,320
started writing to congress it worked so

357
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what you have is this language that was

358
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proposed by the house still being

359
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reconciled now with the senate which by

360
00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:34,080
the way the language is very very

361
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similar

362
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that proposes basically five basis kind

363
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of an obscure five pages in the bill

364
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:43,520
but it's extremely extremely important

365
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:45,840
and over the course of you know you and

366
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i having conversations with your

367
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audience

368
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:49,520
we've always talked about things like

369
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:51,600
you know creating a permanent body and

370
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:53,200
working with our international partners

371
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,039
and allies and

372
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yes even the the the bad word crash

373
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retrievals material

374
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:01,520
and biological effects well

375
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:03,919
it's all in those five pages so congress

376
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has listened

377
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:07,600
enough people i suspect have probably

378
00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:09,360
wrote in and called their their

379
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:10,640
representatives

380
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where you have this historic this bill

381
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,559
and this bill is about to get passed and

382
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:16,799
what's in the bill are five

383
00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:19,600
major points in my opinion the first is

384
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:23,200
the dissolution if you will of the uap

385
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:24,400
task force

386
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:27,840
temporary body created to solve a

387
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:30,320
temporary problem well the uap problem

388
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:33,520
isn't a temporary issue so congress has

389
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:35,840
gotten wise and they have established

390
00:20:41,190 --> 00:20:39,280
their in the language a permanent uap

391
00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:41,200
body that is going to go ahead and

392
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:42,960
replace a task force

393
00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:45,360
furthermore the second point is that it

394
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:48,159
requires the secretary of defense

395
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:50,159
himself or herself in the future

396
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,200
potentially to report every year

397
00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:55,440
annually at a minimum to congress so

398
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,760
it's not like 180 report a 90-day report

399
00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:59,600
from the task force this is from the

400
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:01,520
secretary of defense

401
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:04,080
personally to report to congress and in

402
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:07,679
that report there are several key

403
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:10,240
i i would say probably

404
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:11,440
historic

405
00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:12,480
uh

406
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:14,799
requirements here the first one is that

407
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:17,840
we have to work with our international

408
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:20,400
partners and allies basically no longer

409
00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:22,080
an option you will work with those

410
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:24,320
individuals who are reaching out to work

411
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,159
with you and it's not just countries it

412
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,320
could also be organizations like nato or

413
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,480
the united nations the other really

414
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:32,159
important part here is that it

415
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:34,080
specifically talks about

416
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:38,240
the the reporting of any material i got

417
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:40,559
to be careful what i say but materials

418
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:42,000
that may have

419
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:44,159
been recovered or in the possession of

420
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:46,880
the united states government that's huge

421
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,159
right now anybody out there who has

422
00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:52,480
material in the us government and

423
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:53,679
doesn't report to congress you're

424
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:56,240
breaking the law period full stop

425
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,760
and then the other requirement is that

426
00:22:02,789 --> 00:21:59,280
there has to be

427
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:02,799
a a reporting mechanism that allows our

428
00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:04,640
pilots who have come up close and

429
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,919
personal to a uap event if there's any

430
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:09,679
adverse medical

431
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:12,400
consequences i.e biological effects

432
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:14,720
that too has to be reported now people

433
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:17,360
remember the durgs and that there was a

434
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:20,480
durd a dird dia report that's

435
00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:22,880
specifically focused on the

436
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:24,400
all right it's a little bit loud here as

437
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:25,440
you can tell you really hit me at a

438
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:26,559
truck stop

439
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:29,200
um it requires the reporting of any

440
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:31,360
adverse medical conditions

441
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:33,919
be reported to congress that's huge

442
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:35,919
that's enormous right so

443
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,400
you now have the anybody who's got

444
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:40,480
material in their possession within the

445
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,320
government has to report it

446
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:44,960
any military members who have pilots

447
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:46,960
particularly who have suffered medical

448
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,200
consequences as a result that has to be

449
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,520
reported it also requires us to work

450
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:53,039
with our partners and allies

451
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:55,039
internationally and of course requires a

452
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,640
secretary of defense

453
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,240
to report directly to congress every

454
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:00,400
year in a report so

455
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:03,440
all that all that is stipulated in in

456
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:05,600
five little obscure pages within this

457
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,480
bill

458
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,640
so i i think i think we've really come a

459
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:10,720
long way and i i just came back from dc

460
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,039
myself and there's there's a lot of

461
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:15,280
people now on the hill that are that are

462
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:17,520
having this conversation um there were

463
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,799
some headlines

464
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:21,280
recently where you had uh

465
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,880
congressman walker

466
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:24,640
come out and say yeah this is this is a

467
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,000
big deal this is actually did an

468
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:28,640
interview on tucker carlson uh you had

469
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:30,000
also some other

470
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:31,919
you had to think congressman uh maybe

471
00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:32,880
trey

472
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:34,159
adams

473
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,760
pronounced it correctly yeah gallegos

474
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:37,200
come out and and

475
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:38,400
say hey look

476
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,559
yep this is a this is a big deal we need

477
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,640
to have this reported up and

478
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:44,480
again you're talking both democrats and

479
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:45,679
republicans

480
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:47,600
working together this is a bipartisan

481
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,360
issue and they're all agreeing yeah this

482
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:51,520
is a national security issue so

483
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:53,039
it's it's kind of a big deal in my

484
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:54,880
opinion it it it

485
00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:57,600
it is a big deal um

486
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:00,080
i hope that okay i i hope that

487
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,559
everything is followed through as

488
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,640
as as stated

489
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,400
let me let me ask you this is your job

490
00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:09,200
right well no don't this is where you

491
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,440
and your audience

492
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,760
continue to to drive the point home

493
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,760
right that it must be followed it's it

494
00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:17,760
once it gets signed it's law so if it's

495
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,279
not followed through someone's breaking

496
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,760
the law so it's up to us to make sure we

497
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:24,480
continue to tell congress yes this is a

498
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:25,440
good thing

499
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:27,120
yes we support this no you're not

500
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:29,279
wasting money let's try to figure this

501
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:32,880
out now there's a a couple of uh points

502
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,080
here lou that i want to circle back and

503
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:38,159
and address because

504
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,880
um i see everybody's gonna read what

505
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:42,720
they want to read no matter what the

506
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:45,760
words are right okay all right

507
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:46,640
but

508
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:50,640
when i read uh the part about

509
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,919
um

510
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,840
retrieval

511
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:56,159
of i'm gonna paraphrase here right

512
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:57,279
debris

513
00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:00,799
of a uap now they say unidentified

514
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,400
aerial phenomena

515
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:04,240
i see

516
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:08,400
um a reason for stating that uh

517
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:11,440
for two for two different reasons one

518
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,320
uh

519
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,480
they they must have something they must

520
00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:16,080
have something already in the in in

521
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,039
their possession so now they are uh

522
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:21,600
making sure that this is directly uh

523
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,600
spoken about one and and written into

524
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:26,000
law but two

525
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:28,880
i see flying saucers right i'm para

526
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:31,120
again you know i'm using a generic term

527
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:32,000
here

528
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,200
but it sounds like craft

529
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,360
um if they are not of this earth that

530
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:39,840
that is what they are addressing here do

531
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:41,679
you get that vibe from from that

532
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,880
statement

533
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:44,480
well you only have to listen to the

534
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:46,880
secretary of air force himself secretary

535
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,840
kendall

536
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:49,600
in in the most recent article came out

537
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:51,679
that by political politico

538
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:53,919
he says look we're not denying that

539
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:55,840
these things aren't real we know that

540
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:57,200
the phenomenon is real we've been

541
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,360
dealing with it for a long time now

542
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:01,440
here's my rub with what the secretary

543
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,960
says you now have

544
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:05,120
you have the secretary of defense you

545
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,480
now have the director of national

546
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,880
intelligence and you have congress all

547
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:10,960
saying this is a priority we need to

548
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,480
figure this out so why is the secretary

549
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,640
of the air force dragging his feet

550
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,080
saying you know what

551
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,080
i know it's real i'm not arguing that

552
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:22,480
but it's not my priority

553
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:23,760
just speak and if you look at the

554
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:26,320
article on what he says in his quote

555
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:28,880
it's because well we don't know that

556
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:30,000
first of all

557
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,440
we don't think it's ours but we don't

558
00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:33,440
know if it's a threat or not the way i

559
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:35,600
look at that is it's it's the same as

560
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:36,720
saying look

561
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:39,279
there is a submarine

562
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:41,360
that has popped up out of the water

563
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:42,880
somewhere off the east coast near

564
00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:46,240
washington dc but because it's not ours

565
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:48,080
and you know yeah we don't know if it's

566
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:49,760
a threat or not we're not going to look

567
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,600
into it to me

568
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:54,240
that is absolute opposite of the intent

569
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of what this legislation is is trying to

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push forward you have a secretary of the

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air force saying you know what yeah we

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know it's real

573
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:04,559
but it's not our priority right now

574
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despite the secretary of defense and the

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director of national intelligence and

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now congress all saying yes it is a

577
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priority so my question is where

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00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:14,559
where is the secretary of defense

579
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getting his his direction from and his

580
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:18,480
priorities

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00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,919
if it's not from congress and the

582
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secretary of defense and the director of

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national intelligence right right right

584
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right it's such an important point to

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make

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and then there's the the the

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00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:31,520
uh it's number four

588
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:34,880
um which directly addresses um the

589
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health of somebody that may come in

590
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:39,360
contact

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00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:42,799
in close proximity of of a uap

592
00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:45,440
and i go back to and i just got four

593
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,840
minutes uh before the break lou uh kevin

594
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day's coming up next he told me to tell

595
00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:52,159
you hello by the way good man good man

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00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,840
good man is this

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00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:56,159
uh i go back to rendell shim and what

598
00:28:02,470 --> 00:27:59,440
john burroughs went through as you know

599
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,480
um serious health effects uh that that

600
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,080
took and it wasn't just john burroughs

601
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:06,559
by the way for the record yes and and

602
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:09,039
and but uh it was something that was

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00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:10,320
addressed

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00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:13,120
uh very directly and then if you go back

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00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:14,000
to

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uh the condon report out of uh france

607
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,720
where

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00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:20,399
they mention

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00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,279
uh

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the effects of high frequency

611
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,000
uh radiation from uaps that have been

612
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:30,559
reported in the past like they made a

613
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:32,960
direct reference there

614
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,679
about this and certainly uh and it may

615
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:37,919
be about john burroughs

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00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:38,960
but

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00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:42,480
john um specifically had to pursue this

618
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:44,960
and eventually got it done

619
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:47,679
um this is god for senator john mccain

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00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:49,919
john mccain john mccain yes he

621
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,159
personally took this for action but you

622
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,159
know this is again this is a bipartisan

623
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issue whether you're talking about

624
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:57,760
congressman gallego or you know

625
00:29:02,710 --> 00:28:59,600
congressman walker or senator marco

626
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:02,720
rubio or senator harry reid

627
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,039
if there was ever any proof that

628
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:07,520
congress can work together on something

629
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:10,000
this is a prime example where where you

630
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,000
have people in elected positions who

631
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really are taking this seriously on both

632
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,000
sides of the party and they realize you

633
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:18,240
know what this isn't a political issue

634
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,279
this is this is a humanity issue and i

635
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,679
again i gotta tell you in the last three

636
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:25,600
and a half four years

637
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,440
i didn't think i

638
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:28,880
i didn't think we would be here this

639
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:30,880
fast i hoped we would and we've been

640
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,200
working very hard behind the scenes for

641
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,880
this day to come

642
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,480
i'm just not sure i expected it to

643
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,559
happen quite this fast

644
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:40,559
but of course you know a lot of that is

645
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,679
due to

646
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:43,360
people like you and your audience who

647
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:45,120
said you know what this is important and

648
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:46,960
we're going to call congress it goes to

649
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:49,200
show that the system does work yes yes

650
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:52,240
yes uh i couldn't agree more with you

651
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,200
lou uh there was uh one one other thing

652
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,120
that stood out for me

653
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:59,440
um and and that was the press release

654
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:01,520
coming out of congress where they give a

655
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:05,039
summary of uh the budget and and and

656
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:06,559
pushing this through

657
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,120
and they give uh you know four or five

658
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:11,279
maybe six bullet points of the

659
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:14,480
highlights right of of the spending

660
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:16,240
and right there

661
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:18,720
for for the first time

662
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,520
uh this this subject was not ignored and

663
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:23,679
it and it is spelled out

664
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,720
on the front page of of the press

665
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:29,600
release right there an idea by their way

666
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:32,159
with immense political pressure right

667
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:35,600
now on both sides to to to decrease

668
00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:37,679
budget spending right and what do they

669
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:39,919
do they say you know what yes we agree

670
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:41,919
we need to we need to roll back some of

671
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,720
our spending but this is an area that we

672
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:46,799
can't afford to do that we really need

673
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,559
to get to the bottom of this

674
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:51,120
now uh lou um i want you to be safe i

675
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:53,760
want you to outrun those black suvs they

676
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:54,960
know that you're talking to fade to

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00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:55,760
black

678
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:57,360
um let's uh

679
00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,039
we'll circle back tomorrow in the next

680
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,760
couple of days but uh i want to invite

681
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,080
you back on the show as soon as possible

682
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,799
uh you know probably uh early next week

683
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:09,120
where we've got to do the deep dive into

684
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:11,840
this break it down to everybody so they

685
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:14,960
understand not only uh how important it

686
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,399
is but they

687
00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:18,799
they won't have questions you know we we

688
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:21,519
did something very uh very quick tonight

689
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:23,279
but i want you to be safe out there lou

690
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:25,519
thank you so much my friend

691
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:27,440
you got it will do and thanks much to

692
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:29,360
you and your your incredible audience as

693
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,960
always it's a it's a pleasure thank you

694
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:32,880
behave and be well that's all i got to

695
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,519
say lou okay just get home safe i'll

696
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:38,080
talk to you tomorrow all right

697
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:42,080
lou elizondo uh from a super secret

698
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:43,519
truck stop

699
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,200
somewhere in the midwest i think he said

700
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,440
missouri but i think even that is

701
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,760
throwing somebody off of the scent thank

702
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:51,679
you so much lou keep doing what you're

703
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,080
doing this is fade to black i am your

704
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:56,880
host jimmy church

705
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,120
what a great night what a great week

706
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:01,919
what a great way to kick off that week

707
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,320
coming up next after this short break

708
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:06,799
kevin day is here joining us for the

709
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:07,919
first time

710
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,200
we are going to discuss the nimitz event

711
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,559
the princeton the nimitz a tic-tac

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00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:16,159
and a day we're gonna do all of that

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00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:17,760
when we come back after this short break

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i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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fade to black

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is not

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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[Music]

808
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:18,470
all right welcome back fade to black i

809
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:20,240
am your host jimmy church tonight kevin

810
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:21,200
day

811
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,359
and uh now before we get to kevin

812
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:27,200
i want to take the time to do this uh

813
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,160
for a couple of seconds uh got some uh

814
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:32,400
really cool birthday gifts today

815
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,599
and uh deb from sacramento

816
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:38,400
sent me the wayfarer

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stories

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which have the video camera

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video cameras built in

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and you can wear your sunglasses at

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00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:48,560
night

822
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:49,760
and

823
00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:52,640
videotape uh kevin day as he's having

824
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,640
dinner with me and he doesn't know it

825
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:57,440
see that's that's that's what you do

826
00:38:05,910 --> 00:37:58,960
and uh

827
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:05,920
uh mate meyer and his family i don't

828
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,000
know if i can get this on the camera but

829
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:10,079
there it is it's a lego

830
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:11,359
jeep

831
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:15,119
one's yellow

832
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:17,280
but uh that was sent in i want to thank

833
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:20,240
mate and anita and of course martin uh

834
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,160
for that and i've got some other stuff

835
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:24,160
too as well we'll save that for later

836
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,520
but i just wanted to get that in it was

837
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,119
a very cool day today to get these kind

838
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:29,920
of surprises uh coming to you yeah my

839
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:33,520
birthday is this weekend but tonight

840
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:35,440
right here on fade to black kevin day

841
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:37,119
joins us for the first time we're going

842
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,920
to do a deep dive into the event on

843
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:41,920
board the uss princeton and the nimitz

844
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:44,800
strike group back in november 2004 that

845
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:46,960
launched the new york times december

846
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:51,839
2017 ufo uap article that changed the

847
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:54,800
world kevin is a retired united states

848
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,839
navy senior chief petty officer former

849
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,480
operations specialist and top gun air

850
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:02,480
intercept controller

851
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:04,960
he is an expert operator of the highly

852
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:07,760
advanced spy 1 radar system with years

853
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:09,200
of experience

854
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,160
and service aboard aegis equipped ships

855
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,800
including the vincennes the chosen and

856
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:16,480
the princeton

857
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:18,880
of course everybody knows that back in

858
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:21,359
november 2004 during a combat training

859
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,640
exercise

860
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:25,200
it was princeton's combat information

861
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:26,800
center that discovered the fleets of

862
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:30,240
anomalous air contacts and it was radar

863
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:32,160
operator kevin day that directly

864
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,000
instructed the pilots to change their

865
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:36,720
course and investigate the unidentified

866
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,359
radar spot observed by princeton's own

867
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,520
radar tonight we're going to discuss

868
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,040
all of that

869
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,119
we're specifically talking about the tic

870
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:47,520
tac incident he's also the founder of

871
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:50,960
uap expeditions a non-profit group of

872
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:53,280
former military officials silicon valley

873
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,720
entrepreneurs

874
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:56,400
venture capitalists university

875
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,440
professors and scientists he also wrote

876
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,160
about all of this in a

877
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:04,160
fictionalized version of the event in a

878
00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:07,440
book called sailors anthology his

879
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:09,400
website is uap

880
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:11,359
expedition.org and i would like to

881
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:12,880
welcome for the first time to fade to

882
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:13,760
black

883
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,720
kevin day kevin what is up how you doing

884
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,319
my man

885
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,000
i'm doing outstanding thank you for the

886
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:22,079
invite jimmy i very much appreciate

887
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,680
being on there with you tonight yeah

888
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,280
it's great to finally have you here

889
00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,359
kevin but

890
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,839
you get the first time guest disclaimer

891
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:32,079
so let's get that out of the way

892
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:34,160
kevin it's just you and i sitting on my

893
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,319
couch having a conversation as friends

894
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:38,000
and where that conversation starts it

895
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,760
starts where it ends it ends

896
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,280
but we're gonna end his friends well

897
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:43,119
we're already friends but we will

898
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:44,319
continue

899
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:46,960
to be friends let's let's go that route

900
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:50,720
and uh so there you go you ready

901
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:52,319
i'm ready and speaking of friends i'd

902
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:53,839
like to give a couple shout outs if it's

903
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:56,480
okay jimmy it's it's your show kevin i'm

904
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,870
i'd like to say uh hello to kimberly

905
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,960
barrister my girlfriend she's down in

906
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:06,560
huntington beach listening to us live

907
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,400
and i'd like to say hello to the entire

908
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:10,079
uapx team

909
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:11,599
who may or may not be listening tonight

910
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:14,000
got david mason dr kevin

911
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:15,680
uh knuth and uh

912
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:18,319
dr matthew zeidagus christopher altman

913
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:20,720
gary voorhees jason turner michael hall

914
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:23,520
and pj hughes hello you all yeah right

915
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:27,920
on right on michael c hall

916
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:31,839
the man okay uh kevin um

917
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:35,760
i i don't know quite where to start um

918
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,920
but i do want to just start

919
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:39,040
of course

920
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:42,240
the morning of the incident but before

921
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:44,880
we get there let's actually back things

922
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:47,599
up uh i want to go back to

923
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:49,280
your childhood

924
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:52,160
really quick really briefly

925
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,680
did you have an interest in ufos growing

926
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:57,200
up

927
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,270
i i guess i probably pretty had a pretty

928
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:05,760
much of a normal childhood um

929
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,319
i didn't have a strong interest or but i

930
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,800
was always interested and in fact when i

931
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:12,480
was a ski bum living in jacksonville

932
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:15,520
wyoming i actually did see a ufo

933
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,920
in 1983 in the summer of 83 it was on

934
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,599
the july 4th weekend we're coming back

935
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:20,880
from camping

936
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:22,880
and my brother-in-law slams on the

937
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:24,160
brakes of the truck and hands me the

938
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,599
binoculars and right there amanda's

939
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,440
silver disc it's

940
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:29,680
as clear as day i couldn't believe it

941
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:31,290
and we went home and ate dinner

942
00:42:35,589 --> 00:42:32,880
[Laughter]

943
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:35,599
we didn't make much of it and uh so

944
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,560
silver disc like uh the classic the

945
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:40,640
classic ufo is what you're saying

946
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,680
certainly was yes yeah uh that's very

947
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,240
cool uh metallic color yeah and that was

948
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:47,920
it

949
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,599
i mean uh and i asked when i was working

950
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,720
at the um

951
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:56,640
as a custodian at the one of the local

952
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,960
schools so i could ski in the daytime i

953
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:00,640
was working there at night

954
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,000
and i asked the guy i said hey you

955
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:04,240
represent yeah we see it all the time so

956
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:05,760
apparently i'm not the only one that's

957
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:06,960
seen it there

958
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:09,359
and this was a jackson hole up in

959
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:10,800
wyoming

960
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:14,960
nice place to be a ski bum

961
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:17,040
yeah absolutely

962
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:18,079
uh

963
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,280
the the ufo world you weren't a part of

964
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,520
it

965
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:29,520
no i wasn't i mean i've

966
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:30,720
i've been a

967
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,359
fairly regular listener to coast to

968
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,200
coast am in my you know

969
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:39,440
in my adult years and stuff

970
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:41,280
but you know pretty normal interest

971
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,000
overall in these things and um

972
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,240
and in fact uh

973
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:48,560
i'll i'll hold off on my story and i'll

974
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:50,240
let you lead the way on this okay well

975
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:53,280
that's fine that's fine um okay well

976
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:56,079
then then let's just go to

977
00:44:03,270 --> 00:43:56,960
uh

978
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:03,280
i'm asking these questions is as the

979
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:06,800
events of the day started to unfold

980
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,319
i'm just wondering if you went back to

981
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:12,000
your history

982
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,640
of ufo knowledge and and went ufo uh or

983
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,400
possibly et

984
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:20,480
out of the gate but if you weren't in

985
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:23,200
the ufo world leading up to this you

986
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:25,680
were probably taken by surprise is is

987
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,839
where i'm going

988
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,480
absolutely was it was on um on or about

989
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:32,800
the 10th of november several days before

990
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:35,440
the actual event

991
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,680
i and others the entire strike group in

992
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:39,760
fact started picking up these anomalous

993
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:41,520
tracks on our radar system and we were

994
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:43,440
reporting on our data links so all of

995
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:44,880
our data is going back to the beach of

996
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,839
course

997
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:47,200
so we're not the only one watching these

998
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:48,160
things

999
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:49,520
and we weren't really worried about them

1000
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,119
because they were appearing in groups of

1001
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:52,640
five to ten off the east coast to

1002
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:54,240
catalina island which was way up to the

1003
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,440
north of us

1004
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:56,880
but they were tracking through our

1005
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:59,119
would-be airspace and at the time this

1006
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,240
started happening i didn't have any

1007
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:02,240
aircraft aboard the nimitz so i wasn't

1008
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:04,160
really concerned in fact we thought

1009
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,599
there was something entirely civilian

1010
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,880
related they didn't even know we were

1011
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,880
there and we were just simply tracking

1012
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:10,560
and reporting them

1013
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,800
until the morning of the 14th i had a

1014
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,880
major air defense exercise plan i was

1015
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:16,079
getting ready to fill that entire

1016
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:19,119
airspace full of airplanes um the good

1017
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:20,880
guys notional good guys off the mimics

1018
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:22,720
the notional bad guys off the beach and

1019
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:24,640
we were going to do a

1020
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,000
nose-to-nose battle right there in the

1021
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,079
skies and that's when i became concerned

1022
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,160
because these objects were at 28 000

1023
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,400
feet tracking south and they were going

1024
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:34,720
to be right in my playground area

1025
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:37,040
and i was like oh no so captain smith

1026
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:38,560
comes down to combat hey sir you know

1027
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,520
we've been

1028
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:41,839
um tracking these objects for several

1029
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:43,200
days now and

1030
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:44,800
and up and up until that point jimmy

1031
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,160
where there was like 50 of these things

1032
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:48,400
if you counted all the groups together

1033
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,720
and i'm gravely concerned about safety

1034
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:53,599
of flight because if we launch aircraft

1035
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:55,520
and we hit one of these things

1036
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:57,040
someone's going to ask both you and i

1037
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:58,800
why we were so damn and curious about

1038
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:01,040
these things and he looks at me

1039
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,400
he says you're right so your chief

1040
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:04,400
intercepted and visually id you know the

1041
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,280
idea

1042
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:06,800
i was like hell yeah that's because

1043
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:08,079
that's what that's the answer i was

1044
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,200
looking for

1045
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:11,200
and uh fast eagle fight just happened to

1046
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,640
be the first one airborne commander

1047
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,480
fravor

1048
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,560
the hawkeye had control of it

1049
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:18,000
and but they didn't have radar they were

1050
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:19,839
the one unit that did not hold radar on

1051
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,119
these objects um so we took control and

1052
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,040
okay let me jump in behind the air

1053
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:27,119
intercept controller go ahead yeah kevin

1054
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,720
let me jump in right there really quick

1055
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:30,240
i don't want to get too far ahead of our

1056
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,359
skis

1057
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,160
um here you go uh yeah i get excited i'm

1058
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:37,040
sorry no no i'm excited oh no

1059
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,480
i i can hold uh with all of this i i

1060
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:42,240
just want the audience to be able to

1061
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:43,760
follow through

1062
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:44,960
on some of the things that we're going

1063
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:47,359
to be talking about the hawkeye

1064
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,800
is a radar uh plane that's what the

1065
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:52,800
hawkeye is so when kevin knows where the

1066
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,480
hawkeye is i know what a hawkeye is you

1067
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,440
may not so that's pretty interesting

1068
00:47:02,069 --> 00:46:59,200
that the hawkeye which has got a big

1069
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,079
radar dish on the top of it very

1070
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,800
sophisticated aircraft but i want to

1071
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:06,400
come back to that that the hawkeye

1072
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,160
didn't have radar on these objects yet

1073
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,720
um now with the princeton specifically

1074
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,560
and the nimitz group

1075
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:17,520
um you guys had we're going to be

1076
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:19,520
talking about this all night tonight

1077
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:20,319
um

1078
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:23,520
the the spy one radar system of which

1079
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:25,119
you're an expert on

1080
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,640
but there has been conversation about

1081
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,720
the the spy one

1082
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:32,960
uh back then

1083
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:35,680
was the spy one fully installed on the

1084
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,079
strike group

1085
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,079
absolutely was um there were several

1086
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:42,240
spy-1 radars out there

1087
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,160
with us in the strike group

1088
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:46,319
and not only that we have a system

1089
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,319
called cooperative engagement capability

1090
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:49,760
cec

1091
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,720
and it uses the strike group's diverse

1092
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,400
and powerful surveillance sensors

1093
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,160
including the spy one

1094
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,800
and including our uh identification

1095
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:00,960
friend or photo systems and it it it

1096
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,359
creates a common fuse picture

1097
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:05,040
and puts it on the data links everyone's

1098
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:07,200
looking at the same picture

1099
00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:09,200
okay now you know

1100
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:10,000
how

1101
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,960
was the spy one and i would say

1102
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,240
there's probably stuff that we don't

1103
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:18,640
know about today uh you know secret

1104
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,800
technologies and that's fine

1105
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:21,839
but

1106
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,960
the spy one is considered the most

1107
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,200
advanced radar system in the world

1108
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:29,200
correct

1109
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,000
and and how new was it at that time

1110
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:35,760
that's still true today yeah yeah

1111
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:37,200
exactly as far as i know that's still

1112
00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:40,400
true uh how new at that time was the spy

1113
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,470
uh the first ship with the came out uh

1114
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:48,800
1985 i believe so it's been this the

1115
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:50,319
system itself has been in the fleet for

1116
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:51,760
a long long long time of course there's

1117
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:53,920
been upgrades

1118
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:56,000
you know over the years and the system's

1119
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,760
been improved and improved and improved

1120
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,520
and improved and improved

1121
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:01,040
and the first system came out with this

1122
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,599
by one alpha and when i left the service

1123
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:06,160
it was spywin delta so there was five

1124
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,960
variants five variants okay so

1125
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:10,960
the spy one

1126
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:13,760
there has been some chatter out there uh

1127
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:16,160
kevin that i know that you've heard that

1128
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:18,640
the spy one was just installed on the

1129
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:20,880
princeton and this is a brand new radar

1130
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:22,079
system

1131
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:23,200
um

1132
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:25,359
what what is the real facts with that

1133
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:28,160
the spy one was already on the princeton

1134
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:30,319
right that's that's not true i mean the

1135
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,319
the ship was built with that radar in

1136
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,319
place already now there has been system

1137
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:36,480
upgrades like i just referred to

1138
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,160
and in fact i didn't know it at the time

1139
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:40,160
that we had just received this system

1140
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:41,040
upgrade

1141
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:43,680
um just prior to our underway so maybe

1142
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,240
that's where the confusion lies

1143
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,000
um it's software

1144
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:50,640
software upgrades were there any issues

1145
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,829
no there wasn't in fact um the entire

1146
00:50:02,069 --> 00:49:59,520
time i was tracking these objects i had

1147
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,079
the highest quality spy um

1148
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,160
spy track quality available to us the

1149
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,200
entire time on these objects okay so now

1150
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,520
now we've got things established you're

1151
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,040
tracking

1152
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,520
these groups of objects that started out

1153
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:15,520
uh north

1154
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:21,040
island or is it east well it couldn't be

1155
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:23,599
east then that would northeast northeast

1156
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:26,000
well that would be like marina del rey

1157
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:27,760
uh yeah it was right

1158
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,319
right in the channel you know right now

1159
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:32,640
okay okay okay oh

1160
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:35,359
so near santa barbara

1161
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:38,079
okay now i got you okay so

1162
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:39,040
um

1163
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:42,079
uh but objects are being tracked on spy

1164
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:44,720
one you're on the princeton uh captain

1165
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:47,200
smith captain smith of the princeton

1166
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:48,319
correct

1167
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:52,640
he comes down to you authorizes uh uh

1168
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:55,680
some some toe-to-toe action you guys are

1169
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,880
going to go and do a visual

1170
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:00,720
on these objects

1171
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:03,680
first off the deck of the nimitz is is

1172
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,839
captain fravor

1173
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:07,760
that's corrected the fast to go flight i

1174
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:09,760
you know we take control i'm standing um

1175
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:11,200
on the headset like i'm wearing now

1176
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,119
directly behind

1177
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:14,880
the guy at the console's air intercept

1178
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:16,240
controller right now i'm in a

1179
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:18,240
supervisory position so i'm monitoring

1180
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:20,000
all the comms and keeping the front

1181
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:21,520
table where the captain is informed

1182
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,960
everything that's going on and

1183
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:24,640
moving back and forth

1184
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,559
so he takes control of a fast eagle we

1185
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:28,880
vector him up north um

1186
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:31,280
and the most unbelievable thing happened

1187
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:33,119
as soon as um fast eagle was at the

1188
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:35,040
merge merge plot position which is

1189
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:36,720
basically two

1190
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,319
objects in the same vertical piece of

1191
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:40,559
sky and when i look at it on a display

1192
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,160
on a two dimensional display it looks

1193
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,480
like they're merged they're on top of

1194
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,319
each other right as soon as he's at the

1195
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:48,480
merge plot this object whatever it was

1196
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,800
went from 28 000 feet

1197
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:52,319
all the way down to the surface of the

1198
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,160
ocean and what i found out later the

1199
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:57,359
next day in 0.78 seconds jimmy okay no

1200
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:01,040
sonic booms okay so 28 000 feet 0.78

1201
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:02,720
seconds uh

1202
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:05,440
that is approximately

1203
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:07,200
five miles

1204
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:11,200
in in over a half a second okay that's

1205
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:12,960
that that's moving

1206
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:13,760
that

1207
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:15,760
yeah now

1208
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,440
is there um a chance did you

1209
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,079
ask yourself at that time

1210
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:24,800
that this could be an issue with the

1211
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,720
radar system that this may not be a

1212
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:28,400
physical object

1213
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:29,119
uh

1214
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:30,800
absolutely

1215
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:33,119
and in fact um when we first started

1216
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,240
seeing these objects um

1217
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,880
we it just has a um

1218
00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:40,559
a sanity check we ran all the

1219
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,559
diagnostics we had

1220
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,400
um to make sure that our system was up

1221
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:47,040
and working right and the end result of

1222
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:48,720
that was these objects even showed up

1223
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:53,349
okay all right all right they were

1224
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:55,200
definitely real jimmy there was no

1225
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:56,880
question they were real what they were i

1226
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:00,240
have no idea to this day now were you um

1227
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,760
in communication with fravor

1228
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:06,000
uh my air intercept controller was and

1229
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:07,920
i'm on the i'm monitoring the radio so

1230
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:10,000
i'm listening and i could jump on it if

1231
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:11,839
i if i had to but

1232
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:14,800
okay but you're listening okay so

1233
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,800
when when they get to the merge point

1234
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:18,319
and i like the way that you describe

1235
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,760
that in 2d right not 3d but in 2d

1236
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:23,599
they're going to be on top of each other

1237
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,680
right so they're now going to

1238
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:27,359
yeah when i'm looking at my radar i

1239
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:28,960
don't look at raw radar i look at

1240
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:30,160
symbols

1241
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,160
types of aircraft and ships in

1242
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:36,240
submarines too of course that are right

1243
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:37,680
right the symbols

1244
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:38,880
would be right on top of each other

1245
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:42,880
correct yep yep yep uh so uh they're on

1246
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:46,079
top of each other and at that point

1247
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:51,510
he said um

1248
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:53,280
he

1249
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:00,559
water

1250
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,760
and he gets down there by it and um

1251
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:06,079
he re-merges with it down towards the

1252
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:07,280
surface

1253
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,200
and this object whatever it was turns on

1254
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:11,520
him it recognizes him and reacts to him

1255
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:14,240
and they get like a little dog fight

1256
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:15,119
and

1257
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,559
thing just disappear it was right in

1258
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:18,319
front of him it just disappeared now

1259
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:20,960
you're listening to you're listening to

1260
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:22,960
fravor uh

1261
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,960
uh speaking about everything oh my god

1262
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,280
oh my god i'm engaged i'm engaged

1263
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:29,280
yeah he was pooping his pants right and

1264
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:30,960
for good reason

1265
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,200
no one's ever seen anything like this

1266
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,000
well what what okay so take me to that

1267
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:39,119
moment and i realize you know this is uh

1268
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,280
quite some time ago this is 2021 we're

1269
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:43,200
talking about 2004

1270
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,000
but

1271
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:47,680
certainly uh you must remember

1272
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:51,440
your state at that point of uh

1273
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:52,960
nobody is

1274
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,799
expecting anything you don't know what's

1275
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,880
about to happen but what went through

1276
00:55:00,950 --> 00:54:58,079
your mind

1277
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:00,960
when fravor starts to talk about this

1278
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,960
object

1279
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,559
emotionally can you can you share that

1280
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,319
with us

1281
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,640
yeah um it even gets a little bit

1282
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:10,720
weirder um

1283
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:14,079
in air defense operations we um our job

1284
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:15,760
is to protect the strike group of course

1285
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:17,920
and anything else we're assigned to and

1286
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:19,680
we have what we call combat air patrol

1287
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,160
stations where we pick we station

1288
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:24,079
aircraft in the sky on a perimeter

1289
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:25,920
around us to in case anything comes out

1290
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,799
of us

1291
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,480
we can defend

1292
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:31,040
and you know it's all based on altitude

1293
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:32,799
latitude and longitude

1294
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:34,960
and commander fraber had just launched

1295
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:36,960
and he and fascinal had yet to set their

1296
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,280
cap station that was assigned to him

1297
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:41,839
but somehow this object went to his cap

1298
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:44,000
station jimmy from where they were 60

1299
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,200
miles away

1300
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:47,200
just disappeared and appeared right on

1301
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:48,559
his cap station

1302
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:50,319
the exact latin long and the exact

1303
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:52,960
altitude and we were on back on board

1304
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,280
the ship we were all just stunned

1305
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:57,280
and my aic comes on the radio and says

1306
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,319
uh

1307
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:00,480
sir you're not going to believe this but

1308
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:03,359
that object is at your cap station and

1309
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:04,799
there was just stunned silence on the

1310
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:07,440
radio well that's impossible right yeah

1311
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:09,839
yeah that's impossible

1312
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:11,839
right i mean well it's impossible for a

1313
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:13,680
lot of different reasons physically it's

1314
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:14,799
impossible

1315
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:17,680
but also that exact location

1316
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:20,480
the knowledge of that is impossible

1317
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:23,760
right nobody knows about that except for

1318
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:24,640
uh

1319
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:26,720
the strike group the symbol there's some

1320
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:28,000
remember i was talking about symbology

1321
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,319
now the symbol depicting the capstation

1322
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:32,480
isn't is on our data links

1323
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,799
so whatever this object was somehow was

1324
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:36,240
able to understand our data links i

1325
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:38,559
don't know good question yeah yeah it's

1326
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:39,760
impossible i don't have i don't have

1327
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,359
good answers for a lot of this i'm just

1328
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:43,440
reporting what i witnessed

1329
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:49,910
totally totally um at this point uh we

1330
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:51,760
mentioned the hawkeye earlier i'm gonna

1331
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:53,040
come back to that

1332
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:56,319
um what is in the air

1333
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,720
above the strike group do you guys

1334
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:00,319
always have

1335
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:04,000
uh radar and and other aircraft up above

1336
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:07,040
the strike group to protect it no

1337
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:10,480
no we we do um daily flight ups

1338
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:12,079
and it's based on the schedule and the

1339
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,400
need and all that but no the the short

1340
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:16,720
answer is no but we always do have radar

1341
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:18,400
radars going oh yeah of course your

1342
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:21,920
radars are going and now can your radars

1343
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,799
go over the horizon

1344
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:26,640
yes they can

1345
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:28,880
okay and if if i don't want you to

1346
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:31,119
disclose any classified information here

1347
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:32,400
but no this is all straight out of

1348
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:35,040
wikipedia

1349
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:37,280
yeah yeah fair enough i'm gonna

1350
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:39,760
tell you the same stuff okay so you can

1351
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:43,119
see over the horizon which is 12 miles

1352
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:46,480
um at this point when stuff is coming

1353
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:48,319
back to the cap point

1354
00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:52,480
um was the hawkeye airborne

1355
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:55,520
yes it was did it have radar lock

1356
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:58,640
outside of the spy one i never had radar

1357
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:01,119
on this on these objects so let's let's

1358
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:02,720
all the ships all the ships did but the

1359
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:05,359
radar the hawkeye radar did not can we

1360
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:07,920
discuss that for a second um why do you

1361
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:10,079
think that was

1362
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:13,599
uh just probably the capabilities of it

1363
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:16,240
i'm not real sure be honest with you um

1364
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,079
now is that

1365
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:19,680
everything that's a different well it's

1366
00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:21,680
a different type of system entirely so

1367
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:23,839
yeah certainly certainly despite the

1368
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,079
phased array radar and the the hawkeye

1369
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:28,480
has actually a radar sweep on it i mean

1370
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,000
it's just a different design different

1371
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:32,160
system different capabilities

1372
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:36,000
well um do you think it was um is is it

1373
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,280
a physical

1374
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:39,760
but i'm you know when you're uh we can

1375
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:44,400
almost just uh discuss how a radar works

1376
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:47,920
but in a layman's very simple uh

1377
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:51,040
uh description of it archaic i should

1378
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:51,839
say

1379
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:55,359
is signals are sent out they bounce off

1380
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:56,480
of

1381
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,480
objects whatever's out there and are

1382
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:00,720
returned back and then you are able to

1383
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:03,440
get a fix on the location and possibly

1384
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:05,920
the size of of objects

1385
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:09,119
from that radar return correct that's

1386
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,880
that's basically how the systems operate

1387
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:14,720
correct you know it's light it's light

1388
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:18,720
basically right and so if uh the if the

1389
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,200
hawkeye's not getting a return

1390
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:23,200
could it be because

1391
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:24,480
and again

1392
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:27,119
i'm just asking questions from somebody

1393
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:28,319
in the know

1394
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:29,599
that maybe

1395
00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:32,400
the radar signals are either passing

1396
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:35,760
through the object or

1397
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,000
if there's some kind of cell stealth

1398
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,480
coding or construction on this craft

1399
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:42,799
that would make it difficult to see with

1400
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:48,390
uh yes and yes i don't know you mean i

1401
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:50,319
don't know right right it's always been

1402
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:51,839
a mystery to me why it wasn't able to

1403
00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,040
track it

1404
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:55,119
and uh

1405
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,640
and i haven't heard i've never heard a

1406
00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:58,640
good explanation so yeah i guess it's

1407
01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:59,920
good

1408
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:01,599
it's fascinating to me

1409
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:04,960
um and the with the way that the spy one

1410
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:07,839
um uh does its job

1411
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:10,079
um and it is very sophisticated we don't

1412
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:11,680
need to get into those details but the

1413
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:14,559
spy one is also on other

1414
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:16,960
uh surface ships there

1415
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:19,200
and they didn't have any issue picking

1416
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:22,400
up these objects with the spy one

1417
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:25,119
correct all the spy ships have held a

1418
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:27,839
solid radar contact on these objects yes

1419
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:31,440
and so if all of the other spy ones are

1420
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:33,440
picking up the objects and i hope i'm

1421
01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:34,960
not getting too technical for the

1422
01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:36,319
audience

1423
01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:37,520
that would

1424
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:40,799
tend to eliminate from where i sit

1425
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:43,760
a malfunction or a misreading with

1426
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:46,799
uh the spy one system on a specific ship

1427
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:48,640
if everybody's seeing the same thing

1428
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,839
then everybody is seeing the same thing

1429
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:53,440
that's correct and then

1430
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,520
let's not forget that fast eagle

1431
01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:57,359
actually had eye human eyeballs on these

1432
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:59,440
objects and we're gonna actually saw it

1433
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:01,119
yeah we're gonna come up we're gonna

1434
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:02,960
come back to that right after this short

1435
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:03,680
break

1436
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:05,440
there's no question they were real yep

1437
01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:07,119
yep yep let's take our break right here

1438
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:09,119
this is fade to black i am your host

1439
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:12,240
jimmy church tonight kevin day is with

1440
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:13,839
us for the first time

1441
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:17,599
we are going to do a deep dive

1442
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all of it the events on board the uss

1443
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,960
princeton the nimitz strike group and

1444
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:24,960
everything that went down in november of

1445
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:27,280
2004 i'm your host jimmy church this is

1446
01:01:32,310 --> 01:01:29,359
fade to black stay with me we'll be

1447
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:32,320
right back after this short break

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1477
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1479
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1480
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1481
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1545
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1549
01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:57,910
welcome back fade to black i am your

1550
01:07:02,309 --> 01:06:59,680
host jimmy church tonight kevin day is

1551
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:04,710
we're going through the nimitz event and

1552
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:07,359
i want to i want to absorb as much of

1553
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:10,480
this as possible and the thing is for me

1554
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:12,160
kevin dave was there

1555
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:14,640
and i think it is very important uh for

1556
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:17,760
myself uh to understand all of this and

1557
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,240
hear directly from kevin and and and

1558
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:22,640
that's it and we're gonna do all of that

1559
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:26,640
tonight and uh now before i move forward

1560
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:28,640
i wanna say this um

1561
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:31,920
uh kevin that uh a few weeks ago

1562
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:34,880
um kim comes up to me and i've known kim

1563
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:36,640
for a while and she's wearing her fade

1564
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:39,119
to black shirt and i'm like kim you know

1565
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:40,960
and we you know we do our thing and we

1566
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:43,760
greet each other and she goes um kevin

1567
01:07:48,069 --> 01:07:45,200
day

1568
01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:48,079
and that's all i'm gonna say and and and

1569
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:50,000
i want to thank him

1570
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:54,400
uh for for her amazing smile and and who

1571
01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:55,520
she is

1572
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,079
and and and what ended up happening

1573
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:00,720
after that so uh i i just want to

1574
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:02,880
uh state that because i know she's

1575
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:04,480
listening and she's probably kevin

1576
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,000
wearing her fade to black shirt right

1577
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:08,640
now while listening uh to this shirt

1578
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:11,839
yeah exactly and uh thank you by the way

1579
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:14,880
yeah absolutely uh she's so dynamic okay

1580
01:08:20,149 --> 01:08:15,760
now

1581
01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:20,159
um let's continue with this um

1582
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:21,040
uh

1583
01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:22,080
the

1584
01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:27,759
fravor

1585
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:31,839
um his wingman which was a

1586
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:34,799
wing person right was that alex dietrich

1587
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,120
at this point

1588
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:39,359
correct yes okay so

1589
01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:42,400
so and i prefer uh wing person i prefer

1590
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:45,199
wing person as well yeah right

1591
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,799
it doesn't work no

1592
01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:48,960
it's the pc world that we live in you

1593
01:08:52,870 --> 01:08:50,799
know and she's probably listening to as

1594
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:52,880
well and and she's laughing she's been

1595
01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:54,640
dealing with that for a long time yeah

1596
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:57,199
um but no question about it okay so

1597
01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:59,040
they're at the cap point

1598
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:00,880
and you've just stated that it goes from

1599
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:04,000
28 000 feet down to sea level

1600
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:08,319
what is it um that you are seeing on

1601
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:10,560
your radar when you see that kind of

1602
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:11,839
descent

1603
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:14,000
how does that come back to you visually

1604
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:16,799
uh to you and your team

1605
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:19,120
uh this the symbol were watched if you

1606
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:21,199
look on your display if you have what we

1607
01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:23,279
call a hook you can actually um roll

1608
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,880
your ball tab over everything and hook

1609
01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:26,319
it and it gives you all the information

1610
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:28,640
for that track right there on the system

1611
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:30,000
and if you do that you can see the

1612
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:31,359
altitude

1613
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:32,640
you know as part of the information

1614
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,480
display so we're watching it on our

1615
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:36,640
screens is saying drops

1616
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:38,400
um

1617
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:40,560
out of the sky in less than a second

1618
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:41,920
now the

1619
01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:44,080
the cool thing is when right right when

1620
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:45,440
this is happening of course the rest of

1621
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:46,640
the aircraft are launching off the

1622
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:48,319
nimitz

1623
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:50,000
um the rest of the you know the the

1624
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,759
flight plan and they're they're of

1625
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:53,199
course listening to all this on the

1626
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:54,400
radios

1627
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:56,000
and before i know it i have all these

1628
01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:57,600
autonomous uh

1629
01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:59,120
intercepts happening

1630
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,880
with the rest of these unknown groups

1631
01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:02,560
these guys just took off and intercepted

1632
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:04,480
them on their own and i swear to god

1633
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:06,080
jimmy at one point

1634
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:07,920
all those obstac all those objects there

1635
01:10:12,390 --> 01:10:09,760
i think there was probably ten of them

1636
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:12,400
during this event they all dropped out

1637
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:14,239
of the sky at the same time

1638
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,239
down from 28 000 feet down to the

1639
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:18,480
surface of the water

1640
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,040
it was it was it was uh raining

1641
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:23,280
basically raining ufos

1642
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:24,880
yeah right right back of a better way to

1643
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:27,840
see it now um and this is a part of the

1644
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:30,560
event that isn't discussed much if at

1645
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:31,520
all

1646
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:33,280
and so

1647
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:34,560
this is

1648
01:10:44,229 --> 01:10:40,640
which may be the most important one

1649
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:44,239
um we have the visuals um and and favor

1650
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:46,960
and dietrich are at the cap point

1651
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,480
and they are reporting back to you guys

1652
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:52,640
with the other aircraft that were

1653
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:56,080
launched were those objects similar in

1654
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:57,600
description

1655
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,840
to i'm just going to say tic tac so

1656
01:11:05,750 --> 01:11:01,600
everybody knows what we're talking about

1657
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:05,760
the tic tac that dietrich and and fravor

1658
01:11:12,149 --> 01:11:09,840
are talking about at their cap point

1659
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:12,159
uh yeah they're all the identical

1660
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:13,600
looking objects

1661
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,239
so are you suggesting that of course i

1662
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:18,560
didn't see him with my own eyes um

1663
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:20,159
up close now

1664
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:22,800
there was a couple times i would get um

1665
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,320
i would pick the closest one on the

1666
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:26,560
radar and i'd get the relative bearing

1667
01:11:29,189 --> 01:11:27,760
range from the ship but i'd run up to

1668
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:29,199
the bridge when i looked through the

1669
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,880
big-eye binoculars and

1670
01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:32,880
the couple times i did see it was just a

1671
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,159
boring white light i was kind of

1672
01:11:37,990 --> 01:11:35,760
disappointed actually didn't do nothing

1673
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:38,000
but people on people that stood watch on

1674
01:11:40,470 --> 01:11:38,960
the bridge

1675
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:40,480
or seeing these things with their eyes

1676
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:43,280
doing um some impossible maneuvers you

1677
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:44,080
bet

1678
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:45,840
now um are

1679
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:47,600
many of them

1680
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,320
now we've heard from uh chad uh

1681
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,400
underwood we've heard from captain

1682
01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:54,800
fraver of course and and alex dietrich

1683
01:11:57,430 --> 01:11:56,159
right but

1684
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:57,440
you're now

1685
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:00,320
saying to us that there was

1686
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:01,360
another

1687
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,520
seven eight nine ten aircraft launched

1688
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:05,120
from the nimitz

1689
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:06,719
out uh

1690
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,920
reigning ufos they're on their way

1691
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:11,840
uh do we have another seven eight nine

1692
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:14,880
ten pilots that could uh possibly come

1693
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:17,120
forward

1694
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:19,040
i guess it's possible

1695
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,560
um you know a lot of these

1696
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,800
a lot of these um

1697
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,800
guys and gals nowadays they have defense

1698
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:26,640
contracting jobs and stuff so some

1699
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:28,960
people have chosen not to come forward

1700
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:30,239
and they have their own reasons and i

1701
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:32,400
respect i respect it so i'm

1702
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:33,920
i'm not going to mention names and stuff

1703
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:36,159
here tonight because um i don't want to

1704
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:38,000
leave anyone out for first of all but i

1705
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:39,360
don't want to say someone's name that i

1706
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:41,040
probably shouldn't

1707
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:42,800
right right because i don't want to

1708
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:44,560
now i don't have permission

1709
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:46,800
of course um but

1710
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:47,760
uh

1711
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:48,719
you

1712
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:54,640
at uh the cic on on the princeton um and

1713
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:56,880
and with your job

1714
01:13:02,229 --> 01:12:58,960
you know these other pilots that are out

1715
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,239
there right that's it you've you've been

1716
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:04,719
uh in service with them

1717
01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:07,520
yeah work ups and meetings and um

1718
01:13:10,790 --> 01:13:08,960
all kinds of interaction with them over

1719
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:10,800
you know over the months and years you

1720
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:13,040
bet yeah yeah that's in some of them

1721
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:15,440
some of them i've known um for a very

1722
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:17,199
long time of course

1723
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,840
you know it's a small community

1724
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:21,920
especially the top gun communities sure

1725
01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:24,000
sure sure and we'll come back to the

1726
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:25,600
events of the day

1727
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:28,000
um but uh

1728
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:29,360
were there

1729
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:31,840
i know that uh you know fravor has

1730
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:33,520
talked about him coming back to the ship

1731
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,360
and i i read all of the original stuff

1732
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:37,120
from paco and

1733
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,480
and uh which uh predated uh the new york

1734
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:42,719
times article of course

1735
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:45,600
but um he comes back to the ship and and

1736
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:46,800
it's like

1737
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,760
oh little green men ufo talk right and

1738
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:52,239
and that's what fravor was facing was

1739
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:54,560
that the chatter on the princeton and

1740
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:58,560
and the nimitz uh you know the ufo stuff

1741
01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:00,320
well the the princeton was a much

1742
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,480
smaller um crew than nimitz so we didn't

1743
01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:06,320
like when uh commander forever got back

1744
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:07,840
on board they were playing you know all

1745
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:10,400
the old ufo movies and they were they're

1746
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:12,239
big cartoons in the you know ships

1747
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:14,400
newspaper and that kind of stuff

1748
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:16,239
i didn't receive that

1749
01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:17,440
type of treatment on the princeton

1750
01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:19,840
because everyone on the princeton knew

1751
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:22,080
um

1752
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:24,000
knew our capabilities and knew who i was

1753
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,760
and they believed they believed what we

1754
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:27,360
all saw in combat

1755
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:29,280
you know we didn't get the ridicule

1756
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:31,440
i didn't get that till after i retired

1757
01:14:33,990 --> 01:14:32,560
i want to talk to you about that a

1758
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:34,000
little bit yeah yeah we're going to get

1759
01:14:38,229 --> 01:14:36,159
into that um

1760
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:38,239
okay what about

1761
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:39,360
have you

1762
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:40,880
uh were you

1763
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:42,640
were you debriefed i mean did they pull

1764
01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:45,199
you in and and discuss the events of the

1765
01:14:48,950 --> 01:14:46,080
day

1766
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:48,960
was there did did captain smith i mean

1767
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,960
he's got to write up some kind of in

1768
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:52,560
incident report there's got to be stuff

1769
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:54,239
in the ship's logs

1770
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:57,520
um was did to your knowledge to me that

1771
01:15:01,750 --> 01:14:59,920
was my job you know but i was a primary

1772
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:01,760
message writer for the ship for

1773
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:03,920
operational messages i would draft the

1774
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:05,760
messages and i'd routed up the change of

1775
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:07,840
candy command and then the captain would

1776
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,400
you know be the final chop on it

1777
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:12,080
i went up to combat the next day because

1778
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:13,679
i wanted to write a report and give it

1779
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:15,040
to the captain see if he would release a

1780
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:17,040
message or not i didn't know

1781
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:19,840
and i got up there and i asked the opera

1782
01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:21,360
i asked one of the computer technicians

1783
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,159
and i won't say his name out of respect

1784
01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:26,400
he hasn't come forward yet

1785
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:28,640
can i can i review the the data because

1786
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:29,840
i want to write a message for the

1787
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:31,440
captain he looks at me

1788
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,330
and he says um

1789
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:34,080
[Music]

1790
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,960
that the data's not here senior

1791
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:38,640
someone came on board the ship and took

1792
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:40,960
it that's what he told me

1793
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:41,679
what

1794
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:48,000
you ever heard of anything like this

1795
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:53,990
go ahead i didn't hear you i i i i

1796
01:16:01,910 --> 01:15:59,270
i i'm not a baby crying can i be right

1797
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:01,920
back i gotta get his mom uh yeah i'm

1798
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:04,640
enjoying this go ahead kevin

1799
01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:06,400
okay yeah go ahead kevin hold on just a

1800
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,560
sec i'll be right back

1801
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:10,320
this is great

1802
01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:12,640
this reminds me of uh

1803
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:15,120
uh when we had uh

1804
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:16,480
um

1805
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:18,960
oh i was trying to think of the show

1806
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:21,679
um and ruffle on the show when uh the

1807
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:24,000
gas company showed up at the front door

1808
01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:26,239
and uh that was one of the most precious

1809
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:28,080
moments of uh

1810
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:31,520
of of radio okay so we got kevin back

1811
01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:33,280
and uh kevin

1812
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:36,080
kevin that was awesome by the way

1813
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:37,440
that was just

1814
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,840
it was totally awesome okay so

1815
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:41,760
but but to my but

1816
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:44,640
but to my point

1817
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:48,239
the military uh i'm a military brat i've

1818
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:50,080
seen it go down

1819
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:54,320
you have structure you have rules you

1820
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:57,840
have uh a way a method of operations

1821
01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:00,320
from when you wake up to when you hit

1822
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:03,600
your bunk at night that's it and

1823
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:06,400
and you don't break these things you you

1824
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:07,440
need

1825
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:09,040
the stability

1826
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:09,920
of

1827
01:17:17,189 --> 01:17:15,040
done uh by the book

1828
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:17,199
well this wasn't done by the book it's

1829
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:20,480
like it's breaking protocol for what you

1830
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:23,120
are used to doing what did that say to

1831
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:29,510
um

1832
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:32,880
i was baffled uh i mean what i mean just

1833
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:35,040
think about in layman's terms

1834
01:17:42,310 --> 01:17:38,400
these objects were at 28 000 feet

1835
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:42,320
uh only traveling like 100 miles an hour

1836
01:17:46,310 --> 01:17:43,679
how is that even possible wouldn't it

1837
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:46,320
fall out of the sky instead how did it

1838
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:47,760
create lift

1839
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:48,719
and

1840
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:50,000
i was thinking all these things because

1841
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:52,560
you know i've got a background in uh

1842
01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:54,800
air intercept control of course

1843
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:56,480
and i've never seen anything fight like

1844
01:18:02,630 --> 01:17:58,719
this in my entire career when i was

1845
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,640
sitting in that that day i had 18 years

1846
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,400
on of ship time

1847
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:06,239
uh looking at that radar

1848
01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:07,760
looking at that you know on that those

1849
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:09,440
radar systems

1850
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:11,520
and i had never seen anything fly like

1851
01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:12,719
that ever

1852
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:15,040
it was totally baffling and still is to

1853
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:17,120
this day i don't know what they were

1854
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,800
especially when they they were real and

1855
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:20,640
they reacted to us so whatever was

1856
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,440
controlling them was intelligent

1857
01:18:27,669 --> 01:18:25,520
what do you think was officially

1858
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:27,679
represented

1859
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,950
um

1860
01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:38,229
that

1861
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:41,120
most of our logs log keeping nowadays is

1862
01:18:44,310 --> 01:18:42,880
done electronically

1863
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:44,320
because it's just more accurate it's

1864
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:46,800
more timely and we just take you know

1865
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:49,120
things happen so quickly

1866
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,880
um

1867
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:52,400
we still have log but not the type that

1868
01:18:59,110 --> 01:18:54,080
you're referring to like radar contact

1869
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,590
so that

1870
01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:03,669
to me is still baffling to this day i

1871
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:05,440
have no idea what those objects and i

1872
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:08,800
want to know that's why um

1873
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:11,440
when i can i go into what happened after

1874
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:13,440
this whole thing yeah yeah sure for that

1875
01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:15,840
yeah sure go ahead okay you know

1876
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:18,159
and oddly enough jimmy this

1877
01:19:21,270 --> 01:19:19,840
just so happened to be my very last

1878
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,280
underway

1879
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:23,120
in uniform before i retired it was also

1880
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:25,360
my very last intercept i have i have

1881
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:27,199
hundreds of intercepts in my logbook

1882
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:28,000
from

1883
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:30,239
even including war time war time

1884
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:31,520
operations

1885
01:19:36,870 --> 01:19:33,040
and for this to happen on my last

1886
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:36,880
underway my very last intercept was

1887
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:39,600
that point kind of stuck with me so but

1888
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:41,360
my concern was safety of flight always

1889
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:43,840
has been so i retire i get i get a job

1890
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:45,440
with the department of defense as a

1891
01:19:48,830 --> 01:19:47,199
contractor and i'm trying to raise the

1892
01:19:51,669 --> 01:19:48,840
issue hey

1893
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:51,679
um uh we get we may have a safety of

1894
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:53,600
flight issue out here in socal and as

1895
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:55,440
soon as i started to describe what

1896
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:58,000
happened i got laughed at

1897
01:20:01,990 --> 01:19:59,760
and no one

1898
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:02,000
took me seriously it seemed to me and i

1899
01:20:04,630 --> 01:20:03,440
mean you could see the look on their

1900
01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:04,640
face like

1901
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:06,480
what's wrong with you been smoking kevin

1902
01:20:11,030 --> 01:20:08,880
you know that that that type of look

1903
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:11,040
and i got so frustrated with it jimmy i

1904
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:12,719
actually ended up quitting a department

1905
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:14,080
of defense

1906
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:16,239
and i ended up i was living in phoenix

1907
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:19,440
uh arizona at the time and um

1908
01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:21,360
as

1909
01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:25,520
to do you know what now so what i did do

1910
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:28,320
is i um i wrote i wrote a short story

1911
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:30,000
about i sexualized it it's called the

1912
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:31,280
seer

1913
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,600
my um book called sailor's anthology

1914
01:20:38,950 --> 01:20:37,600
it's a short story within the book

1915
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:38,960
there's no question that i'm talking

1916
01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:40,719
about this nimitz incident

1917
01:20:44,629 --> 01:20:42,639
i mean those stories are that similar

1918
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:44,639
but you know my story is fictionally

1919
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:46,480
because when i wrote it and published it

1920
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:48,560
in early 2009

1921
01:20:52,709 --> 01:20:50,400
i didn't know this story was there

1922
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:52,719
i wrote it just in case the story ever

1923
01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:55,040
became public that my little book would

1924
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:56,560
be evidence that this thing really

1925
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:57,760
happened

1926
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:59,280
that's one of the reasons why i wrote it

1927
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:01,280
the other reason was just because it

1928
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:02,880
made me feel better i would did

1929
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:05,360
something positive with this

1930
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:06,880
and

1931
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:08,800
i i

1932
01:21:13,110 --> 01:21:10,800
you know i went on to live i went on in

1933
01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:13,120
life and i ended up back in my hometown

1934
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:15,920
in uh oregon southern oregon

1935
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:17,120
and

1936
01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:19,120
i had just reopened the kitchen at the

1937
01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:20,800
local golf course illinois valley golf

1938
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,800
course down here in town

1939
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:24,560
and i was carry i hadn't hired a waiter

1940
01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:25,920
or waitress yet so i was carrying out a

1941
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:28,000
plate of food and um we were watching

1942
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:29,280
the golf channel of course with the

1943
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:30,800
tournament was playing and all of a

1944
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:33,520
sudden cnn's on i said who

1945
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,800
i was like i was getting ready who has

1946
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:36,239
who changed the channel

1947
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:37,199
but

1948
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:39,760
it was the commander fravor story

1949
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:41,360
i was so shocked

1950
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:43,600
it was so unexpected and so out of the

1951
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:45,920
blue that i dropped the plate of food

1952
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:47,600
right there it crashed on the floor i

1953
01:21:51,910 --> 01:21:48,960
yell out to my brother i'm like dave i

1954
01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:51,920
gotta go i gotta go and i came home and

1955
01:21:55,270 --> 01:21:53,360
jumped on the internet to find out what

1956
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:55,280
the hell was going on and

1957
01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:57,440
it because i knew i knew in that moment

1958
01:22:01,189 --> 01:21:59,280
jimmy i knew in that moment that my life

1959
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:01,199
was about to change again there was no

1960
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:02,719
question in my mind it was just over it

1961
01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:05,120
was overwhelming to me like oh here

1962
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:08,800
we go kev yeah yeah yeah yeah now um and

1963
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:11,679
this is interesting to me so you

1964
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:12,639
uh

1965
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:16,400
you you find out about this on cnn

1966
01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:19,199
um up to that point nobody reached out

1967
01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:22,639
to you you didn't read the paco story um

1968
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:25,280
on on his pilot's blog

1969
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:29,199
you weren't aware of of any of that

1970
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:32,159
i wasn't no nobody from uh

1971
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:33,840
this cnn

1972
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:36,400
news account pulled me back into it i'd

1973
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:37,840
moved on in life you know i was doing

1974
01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:39,520
other stuff now and forgot pretty much

1975
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:41,920
forgotten all about it yeah well no no

1976
01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:44,480
what am i supposed to do with it anyway

1977
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:46,480
everyone laughed at me yeah yeah but

1978
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:48,639
what i find interesting

1979
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:53,840
is you have uh uh atip is is running lou

1980
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:57,199
elizano's doing that according to lou

1981
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:00,719
and others uh they were aware of the

1982
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:02,320
nimitz encounter

1983
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:06,000
um there was uh the conversations going

1984
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,199
on around that but nobody

1985
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:11,360
from the department of defense nobody

1986
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:13,760
from the navy nobody from inside of the

1987
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:14,960
pentagon

1988
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:17,199
reached out to you or other crew members

1989
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:18,719
of the nimitz strike group or the

1990
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,080
princeton to ask about this incident

1991
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:24,639
and which was clearly being investigated

1992
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:29,750
when

1993
01:23:34,629 --> 01:23:32,080
i ended up in the wilderness um back

1994
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:34,639
here at home because i had in 2013 i had

1995
01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:36,400
become obsessed with this idea i could

1996
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:38,560
find the motherlode to a 100 year old

1997
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:41,040
mining claim that our family owned

1998
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,800
and so i ended up in the wilderness and

1999
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:45,280
the long story short jimmy i did find it

2000
01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:46,159
um

2001
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,480
my i'll send you my i think i sent you

2002
01:23:52,229 --> 01:23:50,480
my research on it and stuff yes anyway i

2003
01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:52,239
come out of the wilderness and um this

2004
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:55,520
was 2014 now and um i was over at a

2005
01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:56,800
friend's house and there was two guys

2006
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,960
there that i met and at the time it

2007
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:00,960
seemed like a happenstance meeting but

2008
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:03,600
they came up to the house the next day

2009
01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:06,639
and um they said some really strange

2010
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:08,159
things that at the time i didn't know

2011
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:09,520
who they were

2012
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:10,639
but they

2013
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:12,719
dropped enough hints that

2014
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:15,199
when this when lou came to see me

2015
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:16,560
i was able to finally put it all

2016
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:18,880
together so yeah long story short i was

2017
01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:21,760
back in two thor 2014 by people from

2018
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:23,920
that program i believe that's true and

2019
01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:25,840
and uh

2020
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:27,120
you didn't know that i think you were

2021
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:28,239
trying to i think they were trying to

2022
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:29,679
ascertain how useful i was going to be

2023
01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:31,760
to them exactly what kind of questions

2024
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:33,199
were they asking you kevin do you

2025
01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:34,960
remember

2026
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,520
no i think um

2027
01:24:41,669 --> 01:24:39,520
they were still pretending to be uh just

2028
01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:41,679
happenstance friends

2029
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:43,760
um so i think they were just trying to

2030
01:24:48,470 --> 01:24:46,239
gauge my mental stability

2031
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:48,480
and you know that type of stuff because

2032
01:24:53,110 --> 01:24:51,360
they really couldn't say too much but um

2033
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:53,120
and they went by the name of forrest and

2034
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:55,040
shakate if they're listening

2035
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:57,600
um one of one of the things that forrest

2036
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,080
told me he said uh kevin um

2037
01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:01,920
you are incredibly important to what's

2038
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:03,440
about to happen

2039
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:05,120
i gotta tell you jimmy i thought he was

2040
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:07,040
i thought he was freaking nuts i i

2041
01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:08,239
didn't know what to make of it at the

2042
01:25:15,270 --> 01:25:09,920
time i had no idea what he was talking

2043
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:15,280
about right and until many years later

2044
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:16,320
okay

2045
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:17,440
now

2046
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:19,760
we're gonna we're gonna pin this part of

2047
01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:21,440
the conversation to the wall we're gonna

2048
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:23,360
come back right here

2049
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:26,800
let's go back to the nimitz um

2050
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:33,669
the day after the tic tac event

2051
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:35,760
um

2052
01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:37,920
were there any we continued

2053
01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:40,320
and we continued to track uh more of

2054
01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:42,560
these objects if i added up all these

2055
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:44,320
objects over the course of the time that

2056
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:45,600
we were attracting them it was probably

2057
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:47,520
about 100 of these things

2058
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,360
like 50 before that

2059
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,760
before the intercept and maybe 50 after

2060
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:53,360
the days that followed

2061
01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:54,800
and we just continued to track and

2062
01:26:01,270 --> 01:25:58,400
report these things on our data links

2063
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:03,110
okay we didn't when they were when they

2064
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:04,960
were up we didn't fly but basically

2065
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:06,719
because we didn't want to run into them

2066
01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:07,679
now

2067
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,639
um

2068
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,560
some of the reports that have been out

2069
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:12,000
there um

2070
01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:14,560
and and lou has has talked about this

2071
01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:15,920
publicly

2072
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:18,239
some of these reports from

2073
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:20,800
ridiculous altitudes

2074
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:23,360
you know above 60 000 feet and once you

2075
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:25,679
get above 60 000 feet

2076
01:26:29,110 --> 01:26:28,000
you're almost in space right we're

2077
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:29,120
talking about

2078
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:31,120
that kind of altitude

2079
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:35,280
and so to go from 60 80 000 feet

2080
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,800
down to sea level with reports being you

2081
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:40,800
know this fast

2082
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:43,360
were you tracking these objects from

2083
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:47,360
those crazy altitudes to sea level

2084
01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:48,320
um

2085
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:50,560
the ship was now other watch centers the

2086
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:52,800
ballistic missile defense watch guys

2087
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:54,960
watch lower earth atmosphere they they

2088
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,880
watch that uh altitude

2089
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,800
i wasn't um paying attention to that

2090
01:27:00,870 --> 01:27:00,239
altitude but yeah they were attracting

2091
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:00,880
them

2092
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:03,280
in her earth's atmosphere from low low

2093
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:05,440
earth orbit yesterday yeah they went

2094
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:07,600
from eighty nine thousand feet and they

2095
01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:09,520
stationed at twenty eight thousand feet

2096
01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:11,040
dropped out of space stationed at twenty

2097
01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:12,400
eight thousand feet right by the island

2098
01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:14,480
and started tracking south at 100 knots

2099
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:16,480
now where was uh

2100
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:18,960
i don't know what it is right yeah right

2101
01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:21,199
exactly so let's stay right here

2102
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:24,480
um when we talk about the nimitz strike

2103
01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,719
group being off of uh the coast of

2104
01:27:30,550 --> 01:27:28,080
california

2105
01:27:33,990 --> 01:27:30,560
um and some of the references are san

2106
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:34,000
diego which is you know a huge naval uh

2107
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:35,600
center for sure

2108
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:38,159
catalina island though is not san diego

2109
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:40,800
catalina island is off the coast

2110
01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:44,800
of uh los angeles uh which is many you

2111
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:47,520
know it's a hundred miles north of of

2112
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:50,639
san diego where was the nimitz strike

2113
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:52,400
group uh

2114
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:54,960
at in between san diego

2115
01:27:58,390 --> 01:27:56,960
and los angeles and how far off of the

2116
01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:58,400
coast

2117
01:28:01,430 --> 01:28:00,400
we were southwest of san diego

2118
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:01,440
um

2119
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:05,040
probably uh 60 80 miles to the southwest

2120
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:06,239
so

2121
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:08,000
on my radar i was when i first picked up

2122
01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:09,360
the objects they were probably i don't

2123
01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:12,320
know 150 miles away or so yeah exactly

2124
01:28:17,669 --> 01:28:14,719
yeah that's that makes okay um

2125
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:17,679
so my bearings are correct i'm not marco

2126
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:19,920
polo but i do live in southern

2127
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:23,120
california right okay so

2128
01:28:29,189 --> 01:28:26,560
you guys are uh 80 miles west of

2129
01:28:33,950 --> 01:28:29,199
southwest of san diego

2130
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:37,189
140 miles north of view

2131
01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:39,040
and you were seeing them north of

2132
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:41,440
catalina island near the channel islands

2133
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:44,320
at some point which is further north up

2134
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:47,199
the coast another 10 or 20 miles near

2135
01:28:51,270 --> 01:28:49,600
santa barbara

2136
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:51,280
i detected them

2137
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:53,760
on i got up the tracks on radar right

2138
01:28:58,870 --> 01:28:56,400
off the coast of san clemente i had my

2139
01:29:00,070 --> 01:28:58,880
geography so they're in that channel

2140
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:00,080
between

2141
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:02,560
catalina and the mainland okay you know

2142
01:29:07,350 --> 01:29:05,120
that narrow strip of water

2143
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:07,360
that's a whole different thing okay

2144
01:29:10,070 --> 01:29:08,159
so

2145
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:10,080
that would split what i'm talking about

2146
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:12,880
in half okay so san clemente

2147
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:16,480
is south of los angeles um and south

2148
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:17,920
carolina

2149
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:20,480
catalina yeah you said san clemente

2150
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:21,440
though

2151
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:22,320
i

2152
01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:31,040
now um okay so

2153
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:34,000
uh talking about the next day how how

2154
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:36,960
many days after the initial tic tac

2155
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,560
event uh with fraver and dietrich uh the

2156
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:42,159
next day you're tracking more you said

2157
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:44,320
there were about 50 objects how many

2158
01:29:50,870 --> 01:29:48,800
days did this continue do you remember

2159
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:50,880
it was several days four or five days

2160
01:29:53,669 --> 01:29:51,679
after

2161
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:53,679
right we put we pulled back to the port

2162
01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:56,960
right shortly after that yep and when

2163
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:58,719
you were um

2164
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:01,600
uh talking about you're not initiating

2165
01:30:05,110 --> 01:30:03,760
flight contact for visual anymore you're

2166
01:30:07,430 --> 01:30:05,120
not flying

2167
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:07,440
but um you said that there were 50 more

2168
01:30:12,149 --> 01:30:09,760
objects so are you tracking them

2169
01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:12,159
individually or are they showing up as

2170
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:13,520
multiple

2171
01:30:18,070 --> 01:30:15,360
objects at the same time you know three

2172
01:30:20,070 --> 01:30:18,080
or four at a time or were these single

2173
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:20,080
uh incidents

2174
01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:22,320
they were they when they appeared they

2175
01:30:25,270 --> 01:30:24,080
appeared in groups of five to ten at the

2176
01:30:26,709 --> 01:30:25,280
time

2177
01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:26,719
and over the course of those several

2178
01:30:31,030 --> 01:30:28,159
days if you added them all up it was

2179
01:30:33,990 --> 01:30:31,040
about 100 contacts about 100 contacts

2180
01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:34,000
and in a general sense

2181
01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:35,040
so maybe

2182
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:36,560
you know groups five to ten over the

2183
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:38,320
course of days it was quite a few

2184
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:40,880
contacts gotcha now i've got 15 seconds

2185
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:42,320
before the break

2186
01:30:46,709 --> 01:30:44,560
and uh

2187
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:46,719
on average you're saying that they would

2188
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:49,120
go from 80 000 feet

2189
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,239
to 28 000 and that's like their cap

2190
01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:54,480
point right their staging area

2191
01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:56,080
and they would stay there and then go

2192
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:00,239
from 28 000 feet down to sea level

2193
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:02,800
correct that is insane to me okay let's

2194
01:31:06,149 --> 01:31:04,560
uh take our

2195
01:31:07,669 --> 01:31:06,159
yeah let's take our break right here

2196
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:07,679
this is fade to black our guests tonight

2197
01:31:12,790 --> 01:31:10,719
the one and only kevin day

2198
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:12,800
i'm getting all of my questions answered

2199
01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:14,639
this is crazy stuff thank you so much

2200
01:31:18,950 --> 01:31:16,560
kevin i just got the thumbs up from

2201
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:18,960
kevin four minute break this is fade to

2202
01:31:27,260 --> 01:31:20,560
black we'll be right back after this

2203
01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:37,590
[Music]

2204
01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:40,709
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2205
01:31:45,669 --> 01:31:43,840
you're listening to fade to

2206
01:31:48,390 --> 01:31:45,679
always on the edge of the hottest

2207
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:48,400
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

2208
01:31:54,290 --> 01:32:06,470
[Applause]

2209
01:32:09,910 --> 01:32:08,149
when you think about the future of our

2210
01:32:13,030 --> 01:32:09,920
country and where we're headed do you

2211
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wonder about the food supply i do

2212
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disruptions in the food supply chain

2213
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could be disastrous and they usually

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2215
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2216
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[Music]

2248
01:33:56,470 --> 01:33:51,669
you are listening to fate to black with

2249
01:34:01,910 --> 01:33:58,950
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2250
01:34:04,709 --> 01:34:01,920
jimmy church this is revolution the

2251
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:04,719
revolution will not be televised the

2252
01:34:11,780 --> 01:34:08,000
revolution is on radio

2253
01:34:51,109 --> 01:34:41,970
[Music]

2254
01:34:54,629 --> 01:34:52,790
welcome back fade to black i am your

2255
01:34:57,270 --> 01:34:54,639
host jimmy church tonight kevin day is

2256
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:57,280
with us i want to thank lou elizondo

2257
01:35:01,669 --> 01:35:00,480
uh for coming on uh the show uh earlier

2258
01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:01,679
tonight

2259
01:35:07,270 --> 01:35:03,760
and one of the things

2260
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:07,280
uh kevin uh that lou said uh when uh i

2261
01:35:11,030 --> 01:35:08,400
let him know that you were on the show

2262
01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:11,040
tonight he said kevin day good man good

2263
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:12,719
man kevin day

2264
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:15,440
so i wanted to pass that on and what but

2265
01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:18,639
what is significant here kevin

2266
01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:22,800
is uh everything that is happening today

2267
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,800
we're not going to discuss it but i'm

2268
01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:26,960
talking about the ua ptf and the senate

2269
01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:29,840
intelligence committee the dod the ig

2270
01:35:35,590 --> 01:35:33,679
uh chris mellon uh these videos the the

2271
01:35:37,750 --> 01:35:35,600
statements pilots coming forward

2272
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:37,760
everything that is happening

2273
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:39,280
um

2274
01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:42,400
is is because of that that day

2275
01:35:49,750 --> 01:35:46,000
and and you and and what went down

2276
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:49,760
um did you have any idea man that you

2277
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:51,600
would find yourself

2278
01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:53,520
in this position

2279
01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:56,560
you know and on this show tonight about

2280
01:36:01,189 --> 01:35:59,199
this because these are world-changing

2281
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:01,199
paradigm shifting

2282
01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:03,520
things that are happening right now did

2283
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:08,390
i'm

2284
01:36:18,070 --> 01:36:15,910
it's it's unbelievable what's happened i

2285
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:18,080
mean it truly is i mean can you imagine

2286
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:20,000
what it must be like to be someone like

2287
01:36:28,390 --> 01:36:25,189
this thing changed my life man it

2288
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:28,400
it drastically impacted me um i paid a

2289
01:36:33,030 --> 01:36:30,320
very high price for this

2290
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:33,040
and in fact i just lost my wife um she's

2291
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:35,040
divorcing me 31 years of mostly good

2292
01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:37,280
marriage she walked out the door

2293
01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:39,040
she couldn't handle this anymore in what

2294
01:36:42,470 --> 01:36:40,719
was happening to me

2295
01:36:44,149 --> 01:36:42,480
and um

2296
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:44,159
like i told you before i ended up at one

2297
01:36:49,109 --> 01:36:47,280
time i was living in the wilderness um

2298
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:49,119
obsessed with this idea i could find the

2299
01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:50,960
mother lode and i did

2300
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:54,480
but that's another whole story um

2301
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:58,320
so yeah this is all this is all um

2302
01:37:02,070 --> 01:37:00,560
you know people like to ask well why me

2303
01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:02,080
and i

2304
01:37:05,189 --> 01:37:03,280
i don't even know if i like that

2305
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:05,199
question because it makes me feel

2306
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:06,880
self-important which i don't feel i

2307
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:08,639
don't feel like that i just

2308
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,920
i just was some guy on watch and

2309
01:37:15,430 --> 01:37:13,199
and it happened

2310
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:15,440
you were just the guy in the way right

2311
01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:17,119
right

2312
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:19,280
and uh what an interesting way to look

2313
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:21,360
at it um and

2314
01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:23,840
and life is strange and you always have

2315
01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:26,239
to uh you got to play the cards that

2316
01:37:29,590 --> 01:37:27,600
you're dealt right you don't have a

2317
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:29,600
choice you can't back out of it

2318
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:32,639
um but i i want to thank i had to stand

2319
01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:35,280
up when um when commander favor went

2320
01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:38,000
public i called gary voorhees um he's

2321
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:40,560
the president of uapx team right now

2322
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:42,960
and i said hey gary um

2323
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:44,639
we were there man we have to back up

2324
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:46,000
what commander fravor is saying because

2325
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:48,639
he's telling the truth and he agreed

2326
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:51,199
with me and one thing led to another and

2327
01:37:55,910 --> 01:37:52,960
we're here today

2328
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:55,920
um because amanda fravor was

2329
01:37:59,910 --> 01:37:58,400
brave enough to go public and he is a

2330
01:38:01,510 --> 01:37:59,920
real hero in my book

2331
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:01,520
if he happens to be listening uh thank

2332
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:04,239
you sir for your service yeah absolutely

2333
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:07,119
absolutely um now

2334
01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:10,320
did any of these objects

2335
01:38:18,070 --> 01:38:16,310
it wasn't my situational awareness

2336
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:18,080
that's what happened and i've never

2337
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:20,560
gotten a real clear answer to that

2338
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:24,239
and um there's people that um

2339
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:26,080
say that that's exactly what happened

2340
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:28,560
though um

2341
01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:30,480
they had when they went into the water

2342
01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:32,400
they apparently didn't slow down much

2343
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:34,159
they were going like 500 knots under the

2344
01:38:39,669 --> 01:38:35,840
water apparently

2345
01:38:41,590 --> 01:38:39,679
and and i i don't have first-hand um

2346
01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:41,600
i don't have first-hand uh

2347
01:38:45,910 --> 01:38:43,840
testimony to that to that i'm just uh

2348
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:45,920
repeating what i had heard

2349
01:38:50,229 --> 01:38:47,679
i was watching there that you're not

2350
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:50,239
underwater sure sure of course of course

2351
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:53,440
um now how many submarines are in the uh

2352
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:56,239
the nimitz strike group

2353
01:39:01,350 --> 01:38:59,199
well i can't i can't go there okay

2354
01:39:02,950 --> 01:39:01,360
i i'll help you out you can assume

2355
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:02,960
there's at least one yeah i was gonna

2356
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:06,000
say the numbers shall be two

2357
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:07,040
okay

2358
01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:11,990
so let's let's let's go let's go with uh

2359
01:39:16,950 --> 01:39:14,560
somewhere between one and two

2360
01:39:20,149 --> 01:39:16,960
um but obviously

2361
01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:20,159
they're running sonar um

2362
01:39:26,470 --> 01:39:24,960
with your position at uh does the cic

2363
01:39:28,550 --> 01:39:26,480
they must be in contact with the

2364
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:28,560
submarines

2365
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:30,719
oh yeah in fact um

2366
01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:32,800
a little annex ii combat information

2367
01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:34,719
center is on our control so we're we're

2368
01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:38,480
pinging solar sonar as well off the ship

2369
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:40,239
yep so it's not just a submarine since

2370
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:42,560
the ships as well sonar okay can we

2371
01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:44,400
mount it you know hold on and solo so

2372
01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:47,920
hard can can you comment on

2373
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,440
on any sonar pings of objects under the

2374
01:39:55,270 --> 01:39:53,119
water

2375
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:55,280
no i i didn't have any awareness that

2376
01:40:00,310 --> 01:39:58,400
was happening did the submarine watch

2377
01:40:01,990 --> 01:40:00,320
on a completely other side of combat

2378
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:02,000
right i didn't know that was going on

2379
01:40:05,669 --> 01:40:03,440
and when this was happening i had no

2380
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:05,679
idea what was going on in sonar control

2381
01:40:10,709 --> 01:40:07,119
okay so you didn't hear from the

2382
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:10,719
submarines is what i you know okay

2383
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:13,360
um but you you have heard

2384
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:15,280
people watching and sonar control did

2385
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:17,280
you sure but not not me

2386
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:19,199
they're talking to them on the iphones

2387
01:40:23,910 --> 01:40:21,440
did did anybody mention

2388
01:40:29,030 --> 01:40:23,920
sonar contact of objects under the water

2389
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:31,910
ask me that again i said did did anybody

2390
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:33,119
comment

2391
01:40:39,350 --> 01:40:36,719
on sonar contact during these incidents

2392
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:39,360
from the submarines

2393
01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:40,560
um

2394
01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:42,800
not that i was aware of because in

2395
01:40:45,830 --> 01:40:44,400
combat information center you got two

2396
01:40:47,430 --> 01:40:45,840
different nets

2397
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:47,440
and i wasn't monitoring the net that

2398
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:49,600
would have been reported on okay there's

2399
01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:50,800
more actually more nets than that of

2400
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:53,440
course but i wasn't if that conversation

2401
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:55,760
was held i didn't hear it it was um it

2402
01:41:02,070 --> 01:40:57,520
was

2403
01:41:04,149 --> 01:41:02,080
my area of expertise okay

2404
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:04,159
wasn't my watch position i was standing

2405
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:05,840
after um

2406
01:41:13,270 --> 01:41:09,760
uh after the incidents took place um

2407
01:41:14,550 --> 01:41:13,280
there has been first-hand testimony

2408
01:41:16,790 --> 01:41:14,560
um

2409
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:16,800
from individuals as you know

2410
01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:19,840
that made comments about

2411
01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:23,600
uh helicopters uh landing at the strike

2412
01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:24,480
group

2413
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:27,119
uh individuals coming off of these uh

2414
01:41:30,870 --> 01:41:28,960
helicopters and

2415
01:41:33,910 --> 01:41:30,880
and pretty much walking around

2416
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:33,920
collecting hard drives and data

2417
01:41:38,629 --> 01:41:35,920
um

2418
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:38,639
like it was nothing and they had the

2419
01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:41,199
power to do this did you see any of this

2420
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:42,719
take place did it take place on the

2421
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:45,199
princeton

2422
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:47,600
i i did not see it myself

2423
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:50,880
um in fact the only

2424
01:41:57,109 --> 01:41:51,760
the

2425
01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:57,119
next morning i went up to write

2426
01:42:01,750 --> 01:41:58,960
an after-action message and my data was

2427
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:01,760
gone so just the fact my data was gone

2428
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:04,239
um kind of lends credibility to what

2429
01:42:08,629 --> 01:42:07,119
people are saying in my opinion

2430
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:08,639
someone took our data

2431
01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:11,280
it is um now with your experience you

2432
01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:14,159
know 18 years in the navy

2433
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:15,280
have you

2434
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:19,520
heard of another incident where

2435
01:42:24,629 --> 01:42:23,040
helicopters arrive from the mainland

2436
01:42:25,060 --> 01:42:24,639
from somewhere

2437
01:42:26,229 --> 01:42:25,070
and

2438
01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:26,239
[Music]

2439
01:42:32,310 --> 01:42:29,679
agency type individuals uh

2440
01:42:34,790 --> 01:42:32,320
are are landing on the ships which i i

2441
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:34,800
find highly unusual

2442
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:37,679
um and and acquiring hard drives have

2443
01:42:42,070 --> 01:42:39,280
you ever heard of anything like this

2444
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:42,080
happening in your 18 years

2445
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:44,560
uh yeah in uh

2446
01:42:49,510 --> 01:42:47,920
during the uh iranian flight 655 shoot

2447
01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:49,520
down when the vincennes shot down the

2448
01:42:54,149 --> 01:42:52,000
iranian airbus by accident

2449
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:54,159
um the same sort of thing happened

2450
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:56,000
people came on board the ship and took

2451
01:42:59,830 --> 01:42:57,679
all of our data

2452
01:43:02,709 --> 01:42:59,840
it was my first deployment and and so

2453
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:02,719
you were there you saw that

2454
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:04,159
yeah i was

2455
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:05,600
you know it was my first deployment and

2456
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:07,920
um i had nothing to do with i was

2457
01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:09,280
i was a real

2458
01:43:13,109 --> 01:43:10,560
junior guy

2459
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:13,119
my very first plan overseas out but when

2460
01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:15,360
it happened jimmy i was standing maybe

2461
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:16,800
three feet away from the cabin when he

2462
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:18,800
turned the key to fire the missiles

2463
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:20,560
just because i was doing a navigation

2464
01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:22,320
function right behind him

2465
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:24,400
and that was kind of the

2466
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:26,719
in in and i've always carried a sense of

2467
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:28,800
guilt because that summer i'd been

2468
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:30,480
watching on i've been watching that

2469
01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:33,280
contact and i knew it was a comma or

2470
01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:36,080
in my heart i knew it was a comma or not

2471
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:37,600
because i've been watching this contact

2472
01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:39,520
every day it was on a regular scheduled

2473
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:41,840
flight probably

2474
01:43:45,990 --> 01:43:43,679
and i was just about to say something

2475
01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:46,000
when captain smith yells out make sure

2476
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:48,239
yeah i'm sure that's not a calm air

2477
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:50,080
yells over to their site so okay they

2478
01:43:53,189 --> 01:43:51,440
got it they they obviously know

2479
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:53,199
something i don't

2480
01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:55,040
um but it turns out not to have been the

2481
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:57,760
case and um so when i did

2482
01:44:01,109 --> 01:43:59,280
finally get more senior and i started

2483
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:01,119
getting over to the air side which is

2484
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:03,360
where the really good operators tend to

2485
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:04,960
navigate towards

2486
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:05,760
um

2487
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:07,520
not to say there's not some very

2488
01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:09,199
excellent surface in subsurface watch

2489
01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:11,360
centers i'm not saying that at all

2490
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:12,080
but

2491
01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:13,920
you kind of go to where your forte is

2492
01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:15,920
and so when i did make it to their side

2493
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:16,960
i

2494
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:21,280
make damn sure we never shot down

2495
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:22,960
another commercial airliner as long as i

2496
01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:24,480
was on the ship

2497
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:26,960
and it made me very vigilant and it made

2498
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:28,639
me uh

2499
01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:31,040
extremely um

2500
01:44:33,910 --> 01:44:32,400
i don't want to toot my own horn but i

2501
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:33,920
was a pretty good watch stander you know

2502
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:36,080
i could identify stuff

2503
01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:36,880
um

2504
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:39,040
it would it was my my job and i did it

2505
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:43,119
well now uh staying on this side

2506
01:44:47,830 --> 01:44:44,880
based on that experience yeah i didn't

2507
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:47,840
know that you uh watched uh the missiles

2508
01:44:51,910 --> 01:44:49,920
get launched in in that horrific

2509
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:51,920
incident

2510
01:44:56,229 --> 01:44:54,400
what a crazy thing to have gone through

2511
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:56,239
on your first deployment but carrying

2512
01:45:01,590 --> 01:44:58,320
that knowledge with you

2513
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:01,600
let's go back to the the nimitz

2514
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:02,639
there

2515
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:04,639
has been

2516
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:07,520
i don't know if this has ever been 100

2517
01:45:09,590 --> 01:45:08,800
confirmed

2518
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:09,600
but

2519
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:11,199
somebody

2520
01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:13,679
asked fravor

2521
01:45:17,189 --> 01:45:15,280
if he was

2522
01:45:19,990 --> 01:45:17,199
carrying stuff

2523
01:45:23,590 --> 01:45:20,000
was that you who who asked him

2524
01:45:25,030 --> 01:45:23,600
if he was locked and loaded

2525
01:45:29,990 --> 01:45:25,040
in uh

2526
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:30,000
we don't carry weapons

2527
01:45:33,350 --> 01:45:31,119
just for that reason we don't want to

2528
01:45:36,709 --> 01:45:33,360
accidentally shoot ourselves

2529
01:45:38,470 --> 01:45:36,719
duh right so everything's um fake you

2530
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:38,480
know we got fake telemetry missiles and

2531
01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:40,400
stuff like that on the wings not not not

2532
01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:42,159
the real mccoy no we we were definitely

2533
01:45:48,310 --> 01:45:45,199
not loaded why would why would air

2534
01:45:52,310 --> 01:45:48,320
traffic control um

2535
01:45:57,750 --> 01:45:55,350
um if he's obviously if he's obviously

2536
01:46:01,350 --> 01:45:57,760
not armed right why would somebody ask

2537
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:01,360
just i think she um uh commander uh

2538
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:03,440
theresa elders and she's passed away um

2539
01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:05,600
rest in peace commander elders

2540
01:46:08,950 --> 01:46:07,520
um at the time she was a lieutenant

2541
01:46:10,870 --> 01:46:08,960
commander

2542
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:10,880
i think she was just pooping her pants

2543
01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:12,560
in um

2544
01:46:16,229 --> 01:46:14,880
because she she knew that she just

2545
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:16,239
wanted to make double sure i guess i

2546
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:17,520
don't i don't know i've always wondered

2547
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,199
that myself because we were definitely

2548
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,520
in an exercise environment and

2549
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:23,040
we never carry live ordinance in

2550
01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:24,639
exercise environment unless

2551
01:46:28,709 --> 01:46:26,560
it's for a missilex you know an actual

2552
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:28,719
scheduled missile shooter or something

2553
01:46:32,790 --> 01:46:30,560
that that's a completely different than

2554
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:32,800
an air defense exercise yeah exactly

2555
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:34,000
completely different

2556
01:46:39,510 --> 01:46:36,960
now are these missiles missiles they're

2557
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:39,520
just not uh they don't have warheads but

2558
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:41,280
they can still fire but they don't have

2559
01:46:44,470 --> 01:46:43,199
warheads no they can't fire they can't

2560
01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:44,480
fire right

2561
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:46,880
so why ask him i mean

2562
01:46:49,669 --> 01:46:47,840
i mean

2563
01:46:51,270 --> 01:46:49,679
maybe it would be effective

2564
01:46:54,149 --> 01:46:51,280
to shoot purposes

2565
01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:54,159
i'm picturing shooting a dummy missile

2566
01:46:57,030 --> 01:46:55,840
maybe that would have an effect on

2567
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:57,040
something

2568
01:47:01,109 --> 01:46:59,520
a kinetic effect and contact but that's

2569
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:01,119
not even possible

2570
01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:03,440
right these missiles cannot fire they

2571
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:04,880
didn't shoot anything

2572
01:47:07,189 --> 01:47:05,679
um

2573
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:07,199
they won't they won't come off the wings

2574
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:08,400
unless you'd knock them off with a

2575
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:10,560
sledgehammer or unbolt them

2576
01:47:16,470 --> 01:47:14,080
okay let's suppose um elder is uh

2577
01:47:17,669 --> 01:47:16,480
pooping her pants and god rest her soul

2578
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:17,679
okay but

2579
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:21,520
um let's say that that is the case

2580
01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:22,960
was she

2581
01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:25,840
thinking that maybe fravor

2582
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:28,719
may have to fire on this object

2583
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:29,920
am i

2584
01:47:35,189 --> 01:47:33,920
i think you're putting too much into it

2585
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:35,199
yeah

2586
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:36,880
i just she didn't she didn't want there

2587
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:38,719
to be a an accidental

2588
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:41,600
mishap she was her concerns were totally

2589
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:44,560
focused on safety oh she didn't want you

2590
01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:46,560
to have aircraft um we were in exercise

2591
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:48,080
environment right off the coast of

2592
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:51,040
california right and um these things

2593
01:47:54,149 --> 01:47:52,800
were never once considered hostile in

2594
01:47:56,550 --> 01:47:54,159
any way shape or form they were only

2595
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:56,560
considered a safety flight risk that's

2596
01:48:03,830 --> 01:47:59,840
it and and one last question probably

2597
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:03,840
just as as uh senseless as the last one

2598
01:48:08,709 --> 01:48:05,920
um meaningless i should say

2599
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:08,719
um is fravor carrying bullets he's got

2600
01:48:13,030 --> 01:48:10,800
cannons no right he's got machine guns

2601
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:13,040
on board nope no bullets

2602
01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:13,840
no

2603
01:48:23,590 --> 01:48:20,880
carried on these planes during exercises

2604
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:23,600
it's that simple so unless it's

2605
01:48:27,270 --> 01:48:25,440
unless it's a scheduled missile defense

2606
01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:27,280
or a scheduled shoot of some kind then

2607
01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:29,040
that's a completely different operation

2608
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:30,880
right right right shooting at targets

2609
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:32,480
out in the open ocean

2610
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:37,199
so um so fravor dietrich chad underwood

2611
01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:39,920
and the other pilots uh through the

2612
01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:42,400
first days of these incidents

2613
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:48,229
right

2614
01:48:51,189 --> 01:48:49,760
they didn't have a way to defend

2615
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:51,199
themselves i mean just like your

2616
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:53,760
defenseless driving on an i5 in your car

2617
01:49:00,950 --> 01:48:56,000
right i can't well no you haven't seen

2618
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:02,550
yeah yeah

2619
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:04,639
you haven't seen my james bond jeep i've

2620
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:07,840
got uh i've got oil yeah i've got oil

2621
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:09,119
deployment

2622
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:10,400
so anyway

2623
01:49:11,890 --> 01:49:11,440
um

2624
01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:11,900
uh

2625
01:49:16,629 --> 01:49:13,199
[Music]

2626
01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:16,639
is that part of the reasons for not

2627
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:19,119
uh deploying any more aircraft because

2628
01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:21,280
if there's any hostile intent from any

2629
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,320
of these

2630
01:49:29,189 --> 01:49:24,320
if they wanted to shoot first there is

2631
01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:30,629
yeah correct

2632
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:31,920
but they didn't

2633
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:32,800
right

2634
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:34,800
they were never they never displayed any

2635
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:36,159
type of hostile

2636
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:38,400
in fact all they did was try to avoid us

2637
01:49:42,629 --> 01:49:39,920
i mean it was like they wanted to be

2638
01:49:44,070 --> 01:49:42,639
seen but they were definitely avoiding

2639
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:44,080
us

2640
01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:44,960
um

2641
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:46,320
next running away from our aircraft

2642
01:49:51,750 --> 01:49:49,280
basically now the um

2643
01:49:53,589 --> 01:49:51,760
the footage that we have seen uh that

2644
01:49:57,990 --> 01:49:53,599
chad shot

2645
01:50:00,149 --> 01:49:58,000
um i think we now know that that footage

2646
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,159
was not

2647
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:02,159
fraver's incident that was a separate

2648
01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:04,000
incident the tic tac

2649
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:05,760
that was filmed that we have seen the

2650
01:50:09,589 --> 01:50:07,040
one video

2651
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:09,599
was not fravor

2652
01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:11,599
what happened to framers no it was a it

2653
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:14,239
was uh it was someone else from the the

2654
01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:17,040
same squadron the fa-41 but it was not

2655
01:50:20,790 --> 01:50:18,960
fragrance intercept that's correct

2656
01:50:22,830 --> 01:50:20,800
another pilot another aircrew filmed

2657
01:50:25,589 --> 01:50:22,840
that now what about based on subsequent

2658
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:25,599
intercepts uh correct correct but what

2659
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,360
happened to

2660
01:50:32,629 --> 01:50:29,280
fravor's footage

2661
01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:32,639
and dietrich's i don't i don't know

2662
01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:36,239
i do not know to this day um

2663
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:38,560
when aircraft and basically just to back

2664
01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:39,679
up since we're talking about this a

2665
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:41,119
little bit

2666
01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:43,920
when in air intercept control when

2667
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:46,400
an air crew um

2668
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:47,679
uh takes a

2669
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:49,679
takes an intercept order from one of the

2670
01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:53,360
ships or from the e2 hawkeye

2671
01:50:59,350 --> 01:50:56,080
they say um the the comms that come back

2672
01:51:01,189 --> 01:50:59,360
uh fights on tapes on so from the second

2673
01:51:02,149 --> 01:51:01,199
they get the call they turn their tapes

2674
01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:02,159
on

2675
01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:04,159
so this video that we've all seen just a

2676
01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:05,520
couple seconds

2677
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:07,360
is actually just to snip it out of a

2678
01:51:12,149 --> 01:51:09,760
much longer video that had to exist

2679
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:12,159
because that's how we operate we record

2680
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:15,119
everything from start to finish

2681
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:17,040
and so it was

2682
01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:18,320
where those

2683
01:51:22,709 --> 01:51:20,080
where that video is i have no idea to

2684
01:51:25,189 --> 01:51:22,719
this day i don't know and that would be

2685
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:25,199
the same thing these are questions that

2686
01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:27,440
have never been addressed directly uh

2687
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:29,520
kevin and i appreciate

2688
01:51:32,950 --> 01:51:32,000
you being so candid about this

2689
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:32,960
but

2690
01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:35,199
based on that statement

2691
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,080
and

2692
01:51:42,709 --> 01:51:38,800
we are assuming this has to be the case

2693
01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:42,719
that every one of those flights

2694
01:51:46,870 --> 01:51:45,199
that day off of the nimitz and you said

2695
01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:46,880
yourself you launched another nine or

2696
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:50,159
ten after fraver and dietrich

2697
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:52,320
they've all got footage right they're

2698
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:57,589
they that should have been the case yeah

2699
01:52:00,790 --> 01:51:59,920
where are they to this day i don't know

2700
01:52:05,750 --> 01:52:00,800
uh

2701
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:06,870
there has

2702
01:52:14,149 --> 01:52:11,679
i mean that's just the way we operate

2703
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:14,159
now when you're saying we had radar data

2704
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:17,440
it has to be the case and and the data

2705
01:52:21,910 --> 01:52:20,320
that is in front of and in back of each

2706
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:21,920
one of those you know i'm talking about

2707
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:24,239
the gimbal to go faster than the tic tac

2708
01:52:28,830 --> 01:52:26,320
those are very small snippets just like

2709
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:28,840
you just stated there is

2710
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:32,000
uh footage at the front and the back

2711
01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:35,040
that is data not only data and telemetry

2712
01:52:39,030 --> 01:52:36,960
that's on the screen of course but what

2713
01:52:41,350 --> 01:52:39,040
you can visually see

2714
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:41,360
right that's data too

2715
01:52:45,589 --> 01:52:44,639
um and that that is gone

2716
01:53:06,470 --> 01:52:45,599
the

2717
01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:06,480
was

2718
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:12,159
in addition to the the radar information

2719
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,880
uh the the coms information that they

2720
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:16,560
would have gone and collected the data

2721
01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:22,149
i'm assuming that's exactly what

2722
01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:24,320
happened on the nimitz yeah

2723
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:26,000
of course i wasn't on the nimitz i was

2724
01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:27,440
on the for instance like i can only

2725
01:53:30,629 --> 01:53:29,360
speak to what i've witnessed on board

2726
01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:30,639
the nimitz and what happened the next

2727
01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:31,920
day

2728
01:53:36,550 --> 01:53:34,400
and

2729
01:53:38,470 --> 01:53:36,560
but yeah that's from what i've under

2730
01:53:40,229 --> 01:53:38,480
from talking to others we're on the

2731
01:53:41,990 --> 01:53:40,239
nimitz that's exactly what happened

2732
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:42,000
people came on board the limits and took

2733
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:43,360
their data too

2734
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:47,440
now why is it uh have you been expecting

2735
01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:50,159
kind of like what i'm expecting

2736
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:52,159
that somebody should be asking these

2737
01:53:56,470 --> 01:53:54,719
questions of of the navy and the

2738
01:53:58,950 --> 01:53:56,480
department of defense

2739
01:54:01,510 --> 01:53:58,960
that these additional incidents occurred

2740
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:01,520
where's the footage what happened we

2741
01:54:05,109 --> 01:54:02,880
need to know

2742
01:54:06,550 --> 01:54:05,119
why isn't uh somebody out there asking

2743
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:06,560
these questions you know rubio the

2744
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:08,480
senate intelligence committee

2745
01:54:14,629 --> 01:54:11,360
uh the uap task force have they seen

2746
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:17,270
i think uh eight day kit programs asking

2747
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:19,599
those precise questions um

2748
01:54:23,350 --> 01:54:21,760
and just the fact that it's not public

2749
01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:23,360
knowledge doesn't really tell me much

2750
01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:26,320
because things get classified and

2751
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:31,830
what's obvious to someone else isn't to

2752
01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:34,080
the normal or a lay person that's not

2753
01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:36,639
it's not known

2754
01:54:40,629 --> 01:54:38,239
but um

2755
01:54:42,629 --> 01:54:40,639
this data has to exist somewhere i i i

2756
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:42,639
find that really impossible

2757
01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:43,760
in fact i have to put it in the

2758
01:54:46,950 --> 01:54:45,280
impossible category that someone

2759
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:46,960
destroyed this stuff and this no longer

2760
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:49,520
exists it just doesn't seem

2761
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:51,520
who would do that you know yeah exact

2762
01:54:59,669 --> 01:54:52,480
evidence

2763
01:55:01,709 --> 01:54:59,679
world changing yeah yeah exactly

2764
01:55:04,470 --> 01:55:01,719
oh man

2765
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:04,480
world-changing um and i don't use

2766
01:55:07,990 --> 01:55:06,400
foul language on the show in fact the

2767
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:08,000
audience just went did jimmy just use

2768
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:10,000
the s word i did

2769
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:12,639
um i i want to clear up

2770
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:20,310
i want to clear one thing up um

2771
01:55:27,189 --> 01:55:24,800
did helicopters land on the princeton

2772
01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:27,199
they land every day all day so

2773
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:28,639
yes

2774
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:32,560
operations we launch and recover

2775
01:55:36,709 --> 01:55:35,360
aircraft every day pretty pretty much

2776
01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:36,719
because you gotta do mail runs and all

2777
01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:39,280
kinds of stuff did the age did the

2778
01:55:43,910 --> 01:55:41,520
agencies helicopters

2779
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:43,920
land on the princeton after the tic tac

2780
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:45,599
events

2781
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:46,960
no it was uh

2782
01:55:50,709 --> 01:55:48,800
according to the um technicians that i

2783
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:50,719
talked to it was a navy or navy

2784
01:55:55,430 --> 01:55:53,280
helicopter okay

2785
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,440
okay so that landed on the princeton

2786
01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:57,520
right and that did happen

2787
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:58,639
um

2788
01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:01,199
all of this is is so extremely

2789
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:04,480
interesting and as taxpayers

2790
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:06,560
you know i i think that there's some

2791
01:56:11,990 --> 01:56:09,840
answers here uh that we need uh with all

2792
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:12,000
of this i mean if there is just

2793
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:14,159
a very simple explanation for all of

2794
01:56:18,390 --> 01:56:15,920
this give it to us

2795
01:56:20,470 --> 01:56:18,400
if it is something else beyond that well

2796
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:20,480
let's figure that out too

2797
01:56:28,070 --> 01:56:23,920
which which brings me back to

2798
01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:28,080
uh the technology that is involved here

2799
01:56:32,870 --> 01:56:29,760
has

2800
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:32,880
to your knowledge in 18 years um with

2801
01:56:38,229 --> 01:56:34,239
the navy

2802
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:38,239
has there been unannounced uh testing

2803
01:56:43,750 --> 01:56:42,400
of uh of of secret technology on a

2804
01:56:45,589 --> 01:56:43,760
strike group

2805
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:45,599
uh to see the effectiveness of that

2806
01:56:49,750 --> 01:56:48,239
technology unannounced

2807
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:49,760
no in fact it

2808
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:51,760
violates every training protocol ever

2809
01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:53,599
written by the military not just the

2810
01:56:56,950 --> 01:56:54,639
navy but

2811
01:56:59,109 --> 01:56:56,960
whenever we do an exercise um

2812
01:57:01,270 --> 01:56:59,119
it is thoroughly briefed up and down the

2813
01:57:04,550 --> 01:57:01,280
chain of command um just in case we

2814
01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:04,560
don't kill people and break things

2815
01:57:08,790 --> 01:57:07,679
so uh it wasn't

2816
01:57:12,070 --> 01:57:08,800
unless

2817
01:57:15,990 --> 01:57:13,990
very high up ordered it to happen

2818
01:57:17,669 --> 01:57:16,000
there's i don't see any conceivable way

2819
01:57:19,589 --> 01:57:17,679
this was a test on

2820
01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:19,599
a test on us during an exercise i just

2821
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:21,040
don't see it happening it's too

2822
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:22,320
dangerous

2823
01:57:25,910 --> 01:57:24,400
now you've reviewed what if we had

2824
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:25,920
reacted the way we did and we ran into

2825
01:57:29,270 --> 01:57:27,760
one of these things right right i mean

2826
01:57:31,189 --> 01:57:29,280
who's you know

2827
01:57:33,030 --> 01:57:31,199
well uh and in fact

2828
01:57:35,510 --> 01:57:33,040
after this happened jimmy i

2829
01:57:38,070 --> 01:57:35,520
i tried to raise i tried to raise the

2830
01:57:39,830 --> 01:57:38,080
the flag of concern this was back in 14

2831
01:57:41,750 --> 01:57:39,840
i said hey man we got a safety or flight

2832
01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:41,760
issue

2833
01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:44,320
and since that time there has been there

2834
01:57:47,510 --> 01:57:46,159
there hasn't there there's been near

2835
01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:47,520
mid-air collisions with these same

2836
01:57:52,229 --> 01:57:50,159
objects right on the east coast with

2837
01:57:54,470 --> 01:57:52,239
navy aircraft and so i turned out to be

2838
01:57:55,990 --> 01:57:54,480
correct about that

2839
01:57:58,870 --> 01:57:56,000
safety of flight

2840
01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:58,880
concern uh we're gonna uh continue this

2841
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:00,880
after the break and i want to set this

2842
01:58:09,030 --> 01:58:04,840
up for our return

2843
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:09,040
um when you have reviewed this over and

2844
01:58:16,070 --> 01:58:12,560
over again in your mind uh

2845
01:58:18,229 --> 01:58:16,080
the events of november 2004

2846
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:18,239
um

2847
01:58:24,629 --> 01:58:20,800
is there a possibility

2848
01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:24,639
that this could be a foreign state actor

2849
01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:27,119
outside of the united states i picked

2850
01:58:31,669 --> 01:58:29,199
the country it doesn't matter

2851
01:58:34,629 --> 01:58:31,679
is there a possibility

2852
01:58:37,830 --> 01:58:34,639
that this could be technology

2853
01:58:41,030 --> 01:58:37,840
that one of our adversaries or friends

2854
01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:43,669
uh because i don't know i don't haven't

2855
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:45,440
made the identification of these objects

2856
01:58:49,030 --> 01:58:46,800
yet i have to include that as a

2857
01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:49,040
possibility sure

2858
01:58:54,390 --> 01:58:51,360
um i don't think so but um i don't have

2859
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:54,400
any evidence other than it it doesn't

2860
01:58:58,310 --> 01:58:55,760
sound right to me

2861
01:58:59,990 --> 01:58:58,320
right right and this stuff was way too

2862
01:59:02,390 --> 01:59:00,000
advanced

2863
01:59:05,510 --> 01:59:02,400
why do you think um

2864
01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:05,520
these incidents happened with the

2865
01:59:11,189 --> 01:59:08,800
roosevelt and the nimitz

2866
01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:11,199
navy strike groups off of each coast of

2867
01:59:14,470 --> 01:59:12,800
the united states

2868
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:14,480
but not over

2869
01:59:19,109 --> 01:59:17,280
dallas texas not over civilian

2870
01:59:20,709 --> 01:59:19,119
installation and we haven't heard about

2871
01:59:24,070 --> 01:59:20,719
anything happening

2872
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:24,080
off the coast of the united kingdom or

2873
01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:26,480
in the sea of uh japan

2874
01:59:29,350 --> 01:59:28,320
we haven't heard about incidents with

2875
01:59:31,270 --> 01:59:29,360
other

2876
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:31,280
militaries around the world that were

2877
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:33,360
similar to this

2878
01:59:42,709 --> 01:59:35,520
why do you think it's the united states

2879
01:59:48,070 --> 01:59:45,750
because um

2880
01:59:49,830 --> 01:59:48,080
we have the um assets in place and the

2881
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:49,840
procedures in place to

2882
01:59:53,270 --> 01:59:50,719
um

2883
01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:53,280
to see these things and track them

2884
01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:55,520
but your question is valid and it's a

2885
02:00:00,870 --> 01:59:58,960
it's a been a mystery to me as well um

2886
02:00:03,189 --> 02:00:00,880
why us why then

2887
02:00:06,149 --> 02:00:03,199
and what the hell were these things

2888
02:00:08,870 --> 02:00:06,159
i mean for real i mean

2889
02:00:10,229 --> 02:00:08,880
what were they jimmy well they were real

2890
02:00:11,750 --> 02:00:10,239
and they were intelligent and they

2891
02:00:12,709 --> 02:00:11,760
reacted to us

2892
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:12,719
and

2893
02:00:16,709 --> 02:00:15,040
they they move if i could if you take a

2894
02:00:18,229 --> 02:00:16,719
mirror and shine a flashlight on it and

2895
02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:18,239
how quickly the light bounces off the

2896
02:00:23,109 --> 02:00:20,639
mirror that's how these things moved

2897
02:00:24,470 --> 02:00:23,119
it's like not physically possible what

2898
02:00:26,629 --> 02:00:24,480
they did

2899
02:00:28,550 --> 02:00:26,639
are you saying

2900
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:28,560
uh uh we're going to continue this when

2901
02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:30,080
we come back after the break i've got to

2902
02:00:33,669 --> 02:00:31,679
jump in 15 seconds here but are you

2903
02:00:34,470 --> 02:00:33,679
suggesting kevin

2904
02:00:36,229 --> 02:00:34,480
that

2905
02:00:37,910 --> 02:00:36,239
uh

2906
02:00:41,510 --> 02:00:37,920
these incidents do happen around the

2907
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:41,520
world we just don't have the ability to

2908
02:00:46,229 --> 02:00:44,080
to track and to see them but the

2909
02:00:49,189 --> 02:00:46,239
the navy strike groups

2910
02:00:52,229 --> 02:00:49,199
with the spy one do have the capability

2911
02:00:54,790 --> 02:00:52,239
to identify these objects

2912
02:00:56,310 --> 02:00:54,800
that's my gut instinct correct yep yeah

2913
02:00:58,070 --> 02:00:56,320
fascinating let's take our break right

2914
02:01:00,550 --> 02:00:58,080
here this is fade to black i am your

2915
02:01:03,270 --> 02:01:00,560
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2916
02:01:05,350 --> 02:01:03,280
kevin day i just muted myself i just hit

2917
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the cough button this is fade to black

2918
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2919
02:01:10,860 --> 02:01:09,599
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2920
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2921
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2959
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2960
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2961
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2962
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2963
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2964
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2981
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2983
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2984
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3002
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3007
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3008
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3009
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3010
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3012
02:06:00,870 --> 02:05:59,119
welcome back fade to black i am your

3013
02:06:02,629 --> 02:06:00,880
host jimmy church tonight kevin day is

3014
02:06:05,589 --> 02:06:02,639
with us

3015
02:06:08,550 --> 02:06:05,599
got one segment left and

3016
02:06:09,669 --> 02:06:08,560
kevin i want to uh take this opportunity

3017
02:06:12,470 --> 02:06:09,679
uh

3018
02:06:13,270 --> 02:06:12,480
to ask some obvious questions i mean if

3019
02:06:18,069 --> 02:06:13,280
if

3020
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:18,079
in in new york you would ask me these

3021
02:06:22,069 --> 02:06:19,840
next questions

3022
02:06:24,229 --> 02:06:22,079
um

3023
02:06:25,990 --> 02:06:24,239
what do you think man

3024
02:06:27,830 --> 02:06:26,000
e.t

3025
02:06:29,510 --> 02:06:27,840
do you think these are drones or do you

3026
02:06:32,390 --> 02:06:29,520
think

3027
02:06:33,669 --> 02:06:32,400
uh now that you've thought about this uh

3028
02:06:38,950 --> 02:06:33,679
for so do

3029
02:06:44,950 --> 02:06:43,109
um my personal opinion is yes

3030
02:06:47,030 --> 02:06:44,960
and i think they have for a very very

3031
02:06:49,910 --> 02:06:47,040
long time

3032
02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:51,910
throughout mankind's history yeah well

3033
02:06:58,069 --> 02:06:54,239
certainly certainly certainly

3034
02:07:01,189 --> 02:06:58,079
uh but specifically um uh november of

3035
02:07:05,350 --> 02:07:01,199
2004. do you think do you think that

3036
02:07:10,550 --> 02:07:08,149
i i personally believe yes i have to i

3037
02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:10,560
have to i have to say yes

3038
02:07:15,910 --> 02:07:13,679
because i've um

3039
02:07:17,990 --> 02:07:15,920
i've ruled out it's ours or theirs

3040
02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:18,000
technology type of um

3041
02:07:22,229 --> 02:07:20,639
just because it was so freaking amazing

3042
02:07:23,830 --> 02:07:22,239
um

3043
02:07:26,229 --> 02:07:23,840
so what what is that it's a pretty short

3044
02:07:27,109 --> 02:07:26,239
list jimmy yeah won't you eliminate us

3045
02:07:29,109 --> 02:07:27,119
then

3046
02:07:31,830 --> 02:07:29,119
where does that leave us

3047
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:31,840
it's a pretty darn short list right

3048
02:07:38,069 --> 02:07:34,480
so you tell me yes yes what's left on

3049
02:07:39,750 --> 02:07:38,079
the list now um angels i mean something

3050
02:07:41,270 --> 02:07:39,760
alive i mean that's

3051
02:07:43,030 --> 02:07:41,280
i mean that's the other possibility they

3052
02:07:46,870 --> 02:07:43,040
were actually some foreign

3053
02:07:48,709 --> 02:07:46,880
living breathing organism sure sure sure

3054
02:07:52,470 --> 02:07:48,719
now um uh

3055
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:52,480
let's let's go back uh to the moment uh

3056
02:07:57,350 --> 02:07:54,880
when you ran up to the bridge

3057
02:07:59,109 --> 02:07:57,360
and you're looking through the i can

3058
02:08:01,830 --> 02:07:59,119
only imagine what kind of binoculars

3059
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:01,840
those are um i want a pair

3060
02:08:08,790 --> 02:08:05,360
um and and you were able to get eyes on

3061
02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:08,800
yourself uh very briefly but you did see

3062
02:08:11,350 --> 02:08:10,079
something

3063
02:08:13,510 --> 02:08:11,360
um

3064
02:08:15,669 --> 02:08:13,520
uh can you tell me about that and what

3065
02:08:18,310 --> 02:08:15,679
kind of uh

3066
02:08:21,189 --> 02:08:18,320
motion did they show you what kind of

3067
02:08:24,229 --> 02:08:21,199
what kind of action what did you see

3068
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:24,239
i actually every i i saw him i ran up to

3069
02:08:28,790 --> 02:08:26,320
the bridge um probably four times during

3070
02:08:30,470 --> 02:08:28,800
this course of the number of days

3071
02:08:32,790 --> 02:08:30,480
and unfortunately every time i saw it

3072
02:08:34,550 --> 02:08:32,800
was at night it was just a very a really

3073
02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:34,560
boring white light in the sky and didn't

3074
02:08:39,189 --> 02:08:36,960
do anything he just was tracking

3075
02:08:40,950 --> 02:08:39,199
real slowly south and

3076
02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:40,960
when i saw it was actually just a boring

3077
02:08:44,310 --> 02:08:42,960
white light in the sky i didn't actually

3078
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:44,320
see it do anything

3079
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:47,280
other than move real slow

3080
02:08:50,709 --> 02:08:48,880
well the bridge watch standards on the

3081
02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:50,719
other hand some of them

3082
02:08:54,470 --> 02:08:52,400
have different they would testify

3083
02:08:55,669 --> 02:08:54,480
differently than i am right now

3084
02:08:57,830 --> 02:08:55,679
i don't know if you had an opportunity

3085
02:09:00,550 --> 02:08:57,840
to talk to some of them but maybe we

3086
02:09:04,069 --> 02:09:00,560
could make that arrangement for you sure

3087
02:09:05,270 --> 02:09:04,079
sure okay um the

3088
02:09:10,310 --> 02:09:05,280
uh

3089
02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:10,320
the the speed changes um from 100 knots

3090
02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:13,520
uh to it to the extremes uh where we're

3091
02:09:17,910 --> 02:09:16,000
talking about you know tens of thousands

3092
02:09:19,830 --> 02:09:17,920
of miles an hour

3093
02:09:21,350 --> 02:09:19,840
that's pretty crazy but the hundred

3094
02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:21,360
knots part

3095
02:09:23,510 --> 02:09:22,400
has

3096
02:09:26,629 --> 02:09:23,520
uh

3097
02:09:29,270 --> 02:09:26,639
caused some out there to suggest that

3098
02:09:32,709 --> 02:09:29,280
these were just drones

3099
02:09:35,750 --> 02:09:32,719
um you said you just said e.t

3100
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:35,760
why would somebody say drones and did

3101
02:09:40,550 --> 02:09:37,360
the navy

3102
02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:40,560
ever suggest drones and wouldn't drones

3103
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:41,520
then

3104
02:09:45,109 --> 02:09:42,960
be us

3105
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:45,119
and our technology even if we're going

3106
02:09:54,629 --> 02:09:52,870
uh probably be us yeah

3107
02:09:55,750 --> 02:09:54,639
but let's take the case of drones this

3108
02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:55,760
object

3109
02:09:59,750 --> 02:09:57,599
goes from 28 000 feet down to the

3110
02:10:00,709 --> 02:09:59,760
surface of the ocean in less than a

3111
02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:00,719
second

3112
02:10:05,589 --> 02:10:03,520
wouldn't even a drone make a sonic boom

3113
02:10:09,270 --> 02:10:05,599
well uh but we

3114
02:10:12,790 --> 02:10:09,280
we have to go back to 2004 too as well

3115
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:12,800
and think about the drone technology uh

3116
02:10:19,589 --> 02:10:16,000
that was around back then this is 2004.

3117
02:10:21,910 --> 02:10:19,599
this is not 2015 or 2018

3118
02:10:23,910 --> 02:10:21,920
where drones are everywhere today we

3119
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:23,920
have delivery drones you can buy drones

3120
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:25,840
off amazon all day long pretty pretty

3121
02:10:28,950 --> 02:10:27,040
cool things

3122
02:10:31,750 --> 02:10:28,960
but we're not talking about a dgi

3123
02:10:33,430 --> 02:10:31,760
phantom uh or a mavic

3124
02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:33,440
or that's not what we're talking about

3125
02:10:37,589 --> 02:10:36,400
we're talking about 2004

3126
02:10:39,589 --> 02:10:37,599
um

3127
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:39,599
and the stuff that was around back then

3128
02:10:43,990 --> 02:10:42,880
the predator uh maybe and and some other

3129
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:44,000
things

3130
02:10:48,069 --> 02:10:45,760
uh

3131
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:48,079
that's not a hundred not

3132
02:10:53,510 --> 02:10:50,880
uh quadcopter uh that's not what was

3133
02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:53,520
around back in 2004. the navy didn't

3134
02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:56,159
have that did they

3135
02:10:59,669 --> 02:10:58,560
not to my knowledge no

3136
02:11:02,149 --> 02:10:59,679
i don't i don't believe there were

3137
02:11:04,229 --> 02:11:02,159
drones um

3138
02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:04,239
and certainly the way that commander

3139
02:11:07,510 --> 02:11:05,920
forever described

3140
02:11:09,430 --> 02:11:07,520
his visual

3141
02:11:11,270 --> 02:11:09,440
because when we got back to the beach i

3142
02:11:13,109 --> 02:11:11,280
met him at a meeting i said hey sir what

3143
02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:13,119
what did it look like and he said

3144
02:11:16,709 --> 02:11:14,320
signature if you're not going to believe

3145
02:11:18,149 --> 02:11:16,719
this but it looked like a big giant

3146
02:11:21,589 --> 02:11:18,159
white tic tac

3147
02:11:23,830 --> 02:11:21,599
no wings no doors no windows no rivets

3148
02:11:26,709 --> 02:11:23,840
it looked like a big giant mint candy

3149
02:11:28,950 --> 02:11:26,719
about the same size of my aircraft

3150
02:11:31,030 --> 02:11:28,960
now if that's a drone in 2004 i'll eat

3151
02:11:32,950 --> 02:11:31,040
my hat i really will sit here on the

3152
02:11:35,589 --> 02:11:32,960
table i'll eat the whole thing right

3153
02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:35,599
right and uh and so fravor told you this

3154
02:11:44,470 --> 02:11:41,510
correct

3155
02:11:48,390 --> 02:11:46,310
we pulled in we pulled back into the

3156
02:11:50,550 --> 02:11:48,400
beach and of course we had uh

3157
02:11:52,629 --> 02:11:50,560
after exercise meetings and stuff and i

3158
02:11:53,990 --> 02:11:52,639
met him at one of the meetings

3159
02:11:55,910 --> 02:11:54,000
and just pulled him aside and asked him

3160
02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:55,920
what he'd seen he said a giant white

3161
02:11:58,310 --> 02:11:57,040
tic-tac

3162
02:11:59,830 --> 02:11:58,320
now uh

3163
02:12:01,830 --> 02:11:59,840
there's something else that i want to

3164
02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:01,840
talk about you spent 18 years in the

3165
02:12:05,350 --> 02:12:03,040
navy

3166
02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:05,360
um with all of the training oh by the

3167
02:12:09,990 --> 02:12:07,440
way did you train at great lakes naval

3168
02:12:14,790 --> 02:12:12,870
uh no i'd never i was a west coast guy

3169
02:12:16,390 --> 02:12:14,800
um i've been out to the east coast

3170
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:16,400
because that's where the a lot of the

3171
02:12:20,310 --> 02:12:17,920
school houses and stuff are but i was

3172
02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:20,320
never at great lakes no i was i was born

3173
02:12:23,750 --> 02:12:22,960
at great lakes naval station

3174
02:12:25,669 --> 02:12:23,760
yeah

3175
02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:25,679
how cool is that you were a military

3176
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:27,679
yeah that was part of great lakes naval

3177
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:30,400
station man which is a huge training

3178
02:12:33,589 --> 02:12:32,560
facility uh for the navy

3179
02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:33,599
um

3180
02:12:36,950 --> 02:12:35,040
okay

3181
02:12:39,510 --> 02:12:36,960
but in all of your training and that's

3182
02:12:41,030 --> 02:12:39,520
all you do you guys train

3183
02:12:42,229 --> 02:12:41,040
that

3184
02:12:43,830 --> 02:12:42,239
you know

3185
02:12:46,629 --> 02:12:43,840
most people don't understand they think

3186
02:12:48,069 --> 02:12:46,639
the navy or any branch of the military

3187
02:12:50,149 --> 02:12:48,079
you're doing other stuff no you're

3188
02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:50,159
training that's all you do you're

3189
02:12:56,790 --> 02:12:52,000
constantly training

3190
02:12:59,350 --> 02:12:56,800
training on ufos was there anything in

3191
02:13:01,109 --> 02:12:59,360
the manual none right zero

3192
02:13:07,510 --> 02:13:01,119
nope

3193
02:13:09,750 --> 02:13:07,520
unidentified aerial phenomena so let's

3194
02:13:12,629 --> 02:13:09,760
take ufo out of the picture

3195
02:13:16,069 --> 02:13:12,639
uh in the training let's take uap out of

3196
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:16,079
the picture in the training but you are

3197
02:13:21,030 --> 02:13:17,199
um

3198
02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:21,040
in the navy you identify every ship in

3199
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,800
the world that's what you guys are

3200
02:13:25,510 --> 02:13:24,480
trained to do you look at something you

3201
02:13:27,109 --> 02:13:25,520
know what it is you know what the

3202
02:13:29,669 --> 02:13:27,119
submarines are you know

3203
02:13:32,149 --> 02:13:29,679
every frigate of every navy

3204
02:13:34,790 --> 02:13:32,159
in the world same thing with airplanes

3205
02:13:37,589 --> 02:13:34,800
and aircraft you guys know

3206
02:13:39,109 --> 02:13:37,599
visually when you look at something what

3207
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:39,119
it is

3208
02:13:43,589 --> 02:13:40,880
what about when you see something that

3209
02:13:46,709 --> 02:13:43,599
you can't identify i'm not talking about

3210
02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:46,719
ufos or uaps but what are the standards

3211
02:13:50,560 --> 02:13:53,189
um

3212
02:13:58,550 --> 02:13:56,229
it's a becomes an unknown contact

3213
02:14:00,310 --> 02:13:58,560
in purely technical terms

3214
02:14:02,069 --> 02:14:00,320
um like it could be like a fishing boat

3215
02:14:04,390 --> 02:14:02,079
with its iff transponder off or

3216
02:14:06,149 --> 02:14:04,400
something like that we're just

3217
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:06,159
yeah because we've got systems on board

3218
02:14:09,669 --> 02:14:08,239
that help us identify stuff and um

3219
02:14:12,229 --> 02:14:09,679
identification

3220
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:12,239
friend rfo is one of them iff and that's

3221
02:14:17,350 --> 02:14:15,679
the transponder on ships and aircraft

3222
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:17,360
that you you ping it and it comes back

3223
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:20,400
with a code to tell you what it is

3224
02:14:24,390 --> 02:14:22,800
and then and in this case

3225
02:14:27,589 --> 02:14:24,400
i have to assume

3226
02:14:30,069 --> 02:14:27,599
you guys are trying to ping the tic tacs

3227
02:14:31,830 --> 02:14:30,079
yes and there was no no uh there was no

3228
02:14:32,950 --> 02:14:31,840
electronic emissions coming off these

3229
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:32,960
things

3230
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:36,000
that i'm aware of now with uh at all

3231
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:38,400
okay now let's suppose a couple of

3232
02:14:44,709 --> 02:14:42,000
things really quick um you've got like

3233
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:44,719
some crazy russian

3234
02:14:50,709 --> 02:14:47,440
fighter su whatever

3235
02:14:51,830 --> 02:14:50,719
um that's up there and you ping that

3236
02:14:54,669 --> 02:14:51,840
um

3237
02:14:57,669 --> 02:14:54,679
do they ping back foe do you get an

3238
02:15:00,310 --> 02:14:57,679
identification code coming back off of

3239
02:15:02,870 --> 02:15:00,320
enemy aircraft

3240
02:15:04,390 --> 02:15:02,880
oh yeah you do right

3241
02:15:06,629 --> 02:15:04,400
yeah exactly

3242
02:15:09,430 --> 02:15:06,639
so when when you're pinging these

3243
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:09,440
aircraft and you're getting nothing back

3244
02:15:13,270 --> 02:15:11,920
uh what's the standard for that how do

3245
02:15:18,069 --> 02:15:13,280
you guys

3246
02:15:20,149 --> 02:15:18,079
have to handle that our response was to

3247
02:15:22,069 --> 02:15:20,159
continue to track and report it

3248
02:15:23,830 --> 02:15:22,079
now our data link's getting shared by

3249
02:15:25,510 --> 02:15:23,840
all the um

3250
02:15:27,270 --> 02:15:25,520
assets out there on the ocean of course

3251
02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:27,280
but our data link is also going back to

3252
02:15:30,470 --> 02:15:28,639
the beach

3253
02:15:32,550 --> 02:15:30,480
so presumably there is people on the

3254
02:15:34,550 --> 02:15:32,560
beach aware what was happening

3255
02:15:37,750 --> 02:15:34,560
but you know i wasn't there so i can't

3256
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:37,760
confirm or deny that

3257
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:39,280
the the

3258
02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:41,280
the other part to this in the tracking

3259
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:43,119
with the spy one

3260
02:15:49,510 --> 02:15:46,960
and how high up you can go uh and and

3261
02:15:51,270 --> 02:15:49,520
and its effectiveness

3262
02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:51,280
we have satellites that are doing the

3263
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:56,229
to your knowledge

3264
02:16:02,069 --> 02:15:59,280
are they being tracked from space

3265
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:02,079
to earth and are they being tracked as

3266
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:05,520
they enter the atmosphere a former cia

3267
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:08,320
director uh recently in the past few

3268
02:16:12,069 --> 02:16:09,199
months

3269
02:16:13,589 --> 02:16:12,079
made some very strange comments

3270
02:16:15,990 --> 02:16:13,599
about this

3271
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:16,000
about the tracking of satellites

3272
02:16:21,589 --> 02:16:18,960
with satellites of these objects

3273
02:16:23,430 --> 02:16:21,599
have you heard and would the navy be

3274
02:16:25,510 --> 02:16:23,440
made aware of

3275
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:25,520
the tracking of these objects before

3276
02:16:31,430 --> 02:16:28,480
they got here to these 80 000 foot

3277
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:34,950
um nowadays probably but back in 2004 i

3278
02:16:40,150 --> 02:16:38,870
but

3279
02:16:42,790 --> 02:16:40,160
i mean it just

3280
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:42,800
wasn't something we had trained to ever

3281
02:16:47,910 --> 02:16:44,080
right

3282
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:47,920
i mean we we do our best to id stuff um

3283
02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:49,280
and in the case where you do get a

3284
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:51,120
contact this you don't you can't id it

3285
02:16:54,870 --> 02:16:53,040
becomes unknown you just track it you

3286
02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:54,880
track and report it

3287
02:16:58,790 --> 02:16:56,319
especially off the coast of the united

3288
02:17:01,509 --> 02:16:58,800
states you know it's we're in

3289
02:17:03,509 --> 02:17:01,519
we're not in the war zone here

3290
02:17:06,629 --> 02:17:03,519
we are we're not thinking hostile

3291
02:17:10,469 --> 02:17:06,639
and now what about um uh the different

3292
02:17:13,589 --> 02:17:10,479
branches of the military uh right now it

3293
02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:13,599
seems like uh everything is u.s navy

3294
02:17:18,709 --> 02:17:16,880
centric as as you're well aware of

3295
02:17:21,669 --> 02:17:18,719
but what about the air force

3296
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:21,679
and what about the marines um

3297
02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:24,000
the army has aircraft

3298
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:26,000
so does the coast guard

3299
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:28,000
is there communication between the

3300
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:30,240
branches of the military about this

3301
02:17:33,990 --> 02:17:32,160
phenomenon

3302
02:17:36,549 --> 02:17:34,000
i have no idea that

3303
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:36,559
i've been out i've been out of that um

3304
02:17:39,509 --> 02:17:38,080
business for a number of years now i

3305
02:17:42,549 --> 02:17:39,519
don't i don't know

3306
02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:42,559
you see

3307
02:17:46,709 --> 02:17:45,040
i'd have to assume so but i don't know

3308
02:17:49,750 --> 02:17:46,719
why i mean it's been years for me since

3309
02:17:52,150 --> 02:17:49,760
i left military so and why do you think

3310
02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:52,160
um and i i understand that the navy has

3311
02:17:59,190 --> 02:17:55,760
got aircraft carriers right and top gun

3312
02:18:02,309 --> 02:17:59,200
and and and and what have you but

3313
02:18:05,190 --> 02:18:02,319
why hasn't the air force uh stepped up

3314
02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:05,200
and and talked about uaps

3315
02:18:10,070 --> 02:18:07,760
do you do you find that interesting uh

3316
02:18:12,709 --> 02:18:10,080
the silence uh coming from the air force

3317
02:18:15,589 --> 02:18:14,549
i do indeed

3318
02:18:17,349 --> 02:18:15,599
that

3319
02:18:21,110 --> 02:18:17,359
it's kind of revealing it in and of

3320
02:18:24,549 --> 02:18:21,120
itself isn't it the fact they are silent

3321
02:18:25,990 --> 02:18:24,559
well yes and when the uap and i bring

3322
02:18:29,910 --> 02:18:26,000
this up because

3323
02:18:33,910 --> 02:18:29,920
uh the uap task force and its report

3324
02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:33,920
even there um in the public section of

3325
02:18:37,589 --> 02:18:35,200
the report

3326
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:37,599
it's all about the united states navy

3327
02:18:42,469 --> 02:18:40,719
the ig you know gets involved with lou

3328
02:18:44,549 --> 02:18:42,479
and and danny sheehan

3329
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:44,559
and they want information coming from

3330
02:18:47,830 --> 02:18:46,319
all the branches from all of the

3331
02:18:49,669 --> 02:18:47,840
agencies they want to know what

3332
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:49,679
everybody knows about uaps and how

3333
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:52,000
they're dealing with it which appears to

3334
02:18:57,349 --> 02:18:56,000
be a a breakdown a lack of communication

3335
02:18:58,629 --> 02:18:57,359
right um

3336
02:19:02,790 --> 02:18:58,639
uh

3337
02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:04,709
did that surprise you that everything

3338
02:19:09,509 --> 02:19:07,519
seems to be so compartmentalized and

3339
02:19:15,030 --> 02:19:09,519
and every branch of the military is

3340
02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:16,389
uh

3341
02:19:20,070 --> 02:19:18,240
and i've thought long and hard about

3342
02:19:21,589 --> 02:19:20,080
this i guess the answer is no i'm not

3343
02:19:22,469 --> 02:19:21,599
surprised

3344
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:22,479
um

3345
02:19:27,669 --> 02:19:25,120
i wish it weren't the case but if that's

3346
02:19:29,030 --> 02:19:27,679
what's happening then yeah i mean

3347
02:19:31,429 --> 02:19:29,040
that's kind of the way the military

3348
02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:31,439
works everything's compartmentalized i

3349
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:33,040
mean and usually for really good reasons

3350
02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:34,479
of course

3351
02:19:37,429 --> 02:19:36,479
but in this case i don't know

3352
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:37,439
how much

3353
02:19:41,589 --> 02:19:39,359
it's a mystery to me

3354
02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:41,599
certainly certainly how much

3355
02:19:46,629 --> 02:19:43,920
how much does the government know

3356
02:19:49,510 --> 02:19:46,639
when when the uap task force report came

3357
02:19:51,270 --> 02:19:49,520
out uh it said we know nothing

3358
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:51,280
right that's what it said we don't it's

3359
02:19:56,150 --> 02:19:53,680
it's not us it's not them

3360
02:19:57,670 --> 02:19:56,160
uh it's it's going into this other bin

3361
02:20:00,469 --> 02:19:57,680
we don't know what's going on but we've

3362
02:20:03,510 --> 02:20:00,479
got to find answers

3363
02:20:06,150 --> 02:20:03,520
do you find that truthful

3364
02:20:08,150 --> 02:20:06,160
or is the department of defense sitting

3365
02:20:10,070 --> 02:20:08,160
on all of the data

3366
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:10,080
no i think it's i think it's absolutely

3367
02:20:13,750 --> 02:20:11,280
truthful

3368
02:20:15,750 --> 02:20:13,760
i i don't think they know

3369
02:20:17,830 --> 02:20:15,760
i really do i think they're being

3370
02:20:19,190 --> 02:20:17,840
truthful in that report they they know

3371
02:20:21,590 --> 02:20:19,200
they're real but they don't know what

3372
02:20:23,510 --> 02:20:21,600
the hell they are what what do we do

3373
02:20:25,429 --> 02:20:23,520
that's that's what i think

3374
02:20:27,830 --> 02:20:25,439
i could be wrong i realized i could be

3375
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:27,840
wrong about that but my gut instinct is

3376
02:20:31,590 --> 02:20:30,000
no one knows what these things are yeah

3377
02:20:33,110 --> 02:20:31,600
certainly and i want to be the guy that

3378
02:20:34,870 --> 02:20:33,120
makes that identification just so you

3379
02:20:36,389 --> 02:20:34,880
know that's why i started the ue

3380
02:20:37,750 --> 02:20:36,399
expeditions and why we've been out to

3381
02:20:39,349 --> 02:20:37,760
socal

3382
02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:39,359
and oh by the way

3383
02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:42,240
our just i'll make this public

3384
02:20:46,870 --> 02:20:45,040
our first expedition we went out there

3385
02:20:49,030 --> 02:20:46,880
and we recorded

3386
02:20:51,830 --> 02:20:49,040
anomalous data and the reports are

3387
02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:51,840
coming out soon in scientific papers

3388
02:20:57,030 --> 02:20:55,040
now uh dr kevin kamuth and uh matthew

3389
02:20:59,750 --> 02:20:57,040
zeidagus are doing papers on it right

3390
02:21:00,950 --> 02:20:59,760
now so you guys

3391
02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:00,960
um

3392
02:21:04,630 --> 02:21:02,560
you guys were in a couple of different

3393
02:21:07,429 --> 02:21:04,640
locations right so you could almost

3394
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:07,439
triangulate the data

3395
02:21:11,030 --> 02:21:08,720
correct yeah

3396
02:21:13,429 --> 02:21:11,040
see i'm in three different locations

3397
02:21:14,120 --> 02:21:13,439
yes see i know things i know things

3398
02:21:15,670 --> 02:21:14,130
kevin

3399
02:21:16,630 --> 02:21:15,680
[Laughter]

3400
02:21:24,469 --> 02:21:16,640
so

3401
02:21:25,910 --> 02:21:24,479
smiled you know one of the one of the um

3402
02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:25,920
the scientists that was there with this

3403
02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:27,920
he comes up to me later he says i got a

3404
02:21:31,990 --> 02:21:30,399
question for you kev i said what's that

3405
02:21:33,670 --> 02:21:32,000
and i i'm not going to say his name he

3406
02:21:35,429 --> 02:21:33,680
said um

3407
02:21:37,190 --> 02:21:35,439
do you think these things showed up just

3408
02:21:39,830 --> 02:21:37,200
because we were here

3409
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:39,840
wanting to find

3410
02:21:43,590 --> 02:21:41,840
and it kind of stunned me because i was

3411
02:21:46,389 --> 02:21:43,600
thinking the same thing

3412
02:21:47,190 --> 02:21:46,399
i i had this feeling that they showed up

3413
02:21:50,309 --> 02:21:47,200
um

3414
02:21:52,790 --> 02:21:50,319
to acknowledge us trying to see them

3415
02:21:54,710 --> 02:21:52,800
i know that sounds crazy as hell

3416
02:21:56,790 --> 02:21:54,720
but

3417
02:21:58,150 --> 02:21:56,800
i mean are they there right this second

3418
02:21:59,429 --> 02:21:58,160
and we're there's just no one there to

3419
02:22:01,510 --> 02:21:59,439
see them i don't know

3420
02:22:03,830 --> 02:22:01,520
but unless they're there all the time

3421
02:22:05,510 --> 02:22:03,840
how do we just happen to

3422
02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:05,520
chance upon them like that out of you

3423
02:22:09,190 --> 02:22:06,880
know if they're only there once a year

3424
02:22:12,230 --> 02:22:09,200
or so i don't know yeah the answer is

3425
02:22:15,510 --> 02:22:12,240
yes you answered correctly

3426
02:22:18,309 --> 02:22:15,520
you answered correctly uh that uh

3427
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:18,319
they they winked at you

3428
02:22:21,670 --> 02:22:20,000
right that's that's yeah that's what

3429
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:21,680
went down

3430
02:22:26,150 --> 02:22:23,120
now um

3431
02:22:29,110 --> 02:22:26,160
i i know that these uh uh reports are

3432
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:29,120
are being written up what about uh

3433
02:22:33,830 --> 02:22:31,280
you're at three different locations

3434
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:33,840
i'm assuming a couple of things i don't

3435
02:22:36,389 --> 02:22:35,520
know how much you can tell me i'm

3436
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:36,399
assuming

3437
02:22:39,349 --> 02:22:37,439
you're

3438
02:22:41,349 --> 02:22:39,359
documenting everything you've got video

3439
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:41,359
cameras running

3440
02:22:49,429 --> 02:22:47,590
multiple modalities of data collection

3441
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:49,439
going on all at the same time to include

3442
02:22:54,230 --> 02:22:52,560
video but we had um magnetrometers

3443
02:22:56,309 --> 02:22:54,240
gravitometers

3444
02:22:57,910 --> 02:22:56,319
uh listening devices

3445
02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:57,920
optics

3446
02:23:01,590 --> 02:22:59,600
video

3447
02:23:04,070 --> 02:23:01,600
um trained observers watching all this

3448
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:04,080
stuff um scientists they're watching

3449
02:23:07,349 --> 02:23:05,920
their equipment i mean it was we

3450
02:23:09,030 --> 02:23:07,359
recorded

3451
02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:09,040
something

3452
02:23:12,710 --> 02:23:10,880
and i can't wait to see these reports

3453
02:23:13,750 --> 02:23:12,720
i'm very anxiously looking forward to

3454
02:23:16,830 --> 02:23:13,760
reading them

3455
02:23:20,469 --> 02:23:16,840
and uh so i'm assuming uh night vision

3456
02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:20,479
infrared and and in full color

3457
02:23:32,469 --> 02:23:21,920
um

3458
02:23:33,910 --> 02:23:32,479
and honestly jimmy i've i've kind of

3459
02:23:35,670 --> 02:23:33,920
stayed

3460
02:23:36,710 --> 02:23:35,680
i've avoided even asking them questions

3461
02:23:37,990 --> 02:23:36,720
you know why

3462
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:38,000
because i didn't want to be the one to

3463
02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:40,560
spill the beans when i wasn't

3464
02:23:44,469 --> 02:23:42,800
because i like to talk about this so i

3465
02:23:46,389 --> 02:23:44,479
purposely kept myself in the dark about

3466
02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:46,399
some of this um until the reports come

3467
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:49,040
out so i'm not the one to screw it up

3468
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:51,120
so okay well there's lots of questions

3469
02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:53,200
that i have sure sure and i'm not asking

3470
02:24:01,990 --> 02:23:56,000
you to divulge anything but i'll get it

3471
02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:05,349
is this were they displaying some of the

3472
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:08,960
characteristics that you witnessed back

3473
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:10,880
in 2004

3474
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:15,040
that have been uh spoken about directly

3475
02:24:18,550 --> 02:24:17,040
by those that were present including

3476
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:18,560
yourself

3477
02:24:25,349 --> 02:24:19,359
is

3478
02:24:28,710 --> 02:24:25,359
with with those kinds of dynamics

3479
02:24:31,510 --> 02:24:28,720
altitude changing direction

3480
02:24:34,070 --> 02:24:31,520
speed appearance did it you mean did our

3481
02:24:35,750 --> 02:24:34,080
data collection gear yes uh collect that

3482
02:24:37,670 --> 02:24:35,760
type of data yes it did

3483
02:24:38,870 --> 02:24:37,680
yeah on our last expedition it certainly

3484
02:24:39,830 --> 02:24:38,880
did

3485
02:24:42,550 --> 02:24:39,840
yep

3486
02:24:44,469 --> 02:24:42,560
and and what are you guys going to do

3487
02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:44,479
i see a movie here

3488
02:24:48,150 --> 02:24:46,560
i see a documentary what are you guys

3489
02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:48,160
going to do with it

3490
02:24:51,030 --> 02:24:49,439
yeah that

3491
02:24:54,630 --> 02:24:51,040
i think that's kind of inevitable

3492
02:24:57,590 --> 02:24:54,640
especially if this stuff continues to um

3493
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:57,600
manifest the way it has been manifesting

3494
02:25:02,150 --> 02:24:59,760
at the end of the day here i definitely

3495
02:25:05,830 --> 02:25:02,160
see a major movie i mean because it's a

3496
02:25:09,349 --> 02:25:07,830
the answer to what this is

3497
02:25:10,710 --> 02:25:09,359
is literally

3498
02:25:13,349 --> 02:25:10,720
world changing

3499
02:25:15,190 --> 02:25:13,359
what do you do today i mean like after

3500
02:25:17,270 --> 02:25:15,200
the show tonight

3501
02:25:19,910 --> 02:25:17,280
um do you walk outside and look up at

3502
02:25:21,190 --> 02:25:19,920
the stars and go you know holy crap man

3503
02:25:23,030 --> 02:25:21,200
okay

3504
02:25:24,790 --> 02:25:23,040
dude i do

3505
02:25:27,270 --> 02:25:24,800
do you do that do you look up and just

3506
02:25:29,910 --> 02:25:27,280
go what is going on

3507
02:25:32,870 --> 02:25:29,920
i do all the time you bet i do and i

3508
02:25:35,030 --> 02:25:32,880
live in a a place on the planet where

3509
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:35,040
i live in the country in southern oregon

3510
02:25:39,670 --> 02:25:37,120
in southwest southern oregon it's really

3511
02:25:40,950 --> 02:25:39,680
dark here so we get a beautiful starry

3512
02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:40,960
night almost there you know if it's not

3513
02:25:44,389 --> 02:25:42,960
cloudy but we get it's really dark here

3514
02:25:45,510 --> 02:25:44,399
so the stars are really out it's

3515
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:45,520
beautiful

3516
02:25:49,510 --> 02:25:47,359
so you bet i spend quite a bit of time

3517
02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:49,520
staring at stars you bet i do uh have

3518
02:25:52,870 --> 02:25:50,960
you been wondering

3519
02:25:54,710 --> 02:25:52,880
what in the world

3520
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:54,720
is out there you know you've got a great

3521
02:25:59,110 --> 02:25:57,120
smile man and your eyes are lit up and i

3522
02:26:01,510 --> 02:25:59,120
enjoy that part about you

3523
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:01,520
um have you made contact

3524
02:26:06,710 --> 02:26:03,439
have you made contact again have you

3525
02:26:09,429 --> 02:26:06,720
seen stuff on your own

3526
02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:09,439
no i haven't nope have you tried i

3527
02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:10,720
certainly have

3528
02:26:15,429 --> 02:26:12,880
uh not really no

3529
02:26:16,870 --> 02:26:15,439
really you mean like a c e5 yeah yeah

3530
02:26:20,710 --> 02:26:16,880
yeah yeah

3531
02:26:21,750 --> 02:26:20,720
keep my sanity about this you know i

3532
02:26:26,710 --> 02:26:21,760
don't want to

3533
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:26,720
i was never a quote unquote ufo guy you

3534
02:26:30,230 --> 02:26:28,160
know what i mean and i'm

3535
02:26:32,830 --> 02:26:30,240
i'm still not i'm just i consider myself

3536
02:26:34,950 --> 02:26:32,840
pretty normal in that regard

3537
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:34,960
so some of the

3538
02:26:39,590 --> 02:26:38,240
more of the woo-woo stuff i kind of um

3539
02:26:41,429 --> 02:26:39,600
i've stayed away from it because i

3540
02:26:43,670 --> 02:26:41,439
didn't um

3541
02:26:45,270 --> 02:26:43,680
want people to confuse my message

3542
02:26:46,950 --> 02:26:45,280
because my message here is

3543
02:26:49,750 --> 02:26:46,960
and it's still to this day is safety of

3544
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:49,760
flight man

3545
02:26:52,389 --> 02:26:51,120
i mean that's my training that's my

3546
02:26:54,870 --> 02:26:52,399
background that's

3547
02:26:56,469 --> 02:26:54,880
was my original concern and it remains

3548
02:26:58,790 --> 02:26:56,479
so today

3549
02:27:00,630 --> 02:26:58,800
and the curiosity of what they are it

3550
02:27:02,230 --> 02:27:00,640
goes beyond that now of course so what

3551
02:27:03,590 --> 02:27:02,240
were these things and what does it mean

3552
02:27:05,830 --> 02:27:03,600
to us

3553
02:27:08,950 --> 02:27:05,840
do you tell me yeah i know and do you

3554
02:27:11,750 --> 02:27:08,960
think that the admissions as as cryptic

3555
02:27:14,630 --> 02:27:11,760
as they have been coming out of uh the

3556
02:27:16,230 --> 02:27:14,640
pentagon and the united states navy

3557
02:27:18,790 --> 02:27:16,240
there's been a certain level of

3558
02:27:21,110 --> 02:27:18,800
admissions but there's been an also a

3559
02:27:23,830 --> 02:27:21,120
certain level of expectation from the

3560
02:27:27,830 --> 02:27:23,840
ufo community and if not the world

3561
02:27:31,190 --> 02:27:27,840
uh in general about disclosure

3562
02:27:33,670 --> 02:27:31,200
do you see this happening is this

3563
02:27:34,790 --> 02:27:33,680
is this what we are witnessing is this

3564
02:27:37,830 --> 02:27:34,800
something that

3565
02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:37,840
uh the government is about to

3566
02:27:44,150 --> 02:27:40,000
uh start to reveal

3567
02:27:46,309 --> 02:27:44,160
is that is that what is happening

3568
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:46,319
as soon as they figure out what the heck

3569
02:27:50,309 --> 02:27:47,520
it is

3570
02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:50,319
i you asked me this question earlier i

3571
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:52,560
honestly believe they don't know

3572
02:27:55,590 --> 02:27:54,160
so what are they gonna disclose the fact

3573
02:27:57,670 --> 02:27:55,600
they don't know i think they already

3574
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:57,680
just did that

3575
02:28:01,190 --> 02:27:59,280
yeah so

3576
02:28:03,110 --> 02:28:01,200
maybe that's the answer they don't know

3577
02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:03,120
and that's exactly what the report said

3578
02:28:05,990 --> 02:28:04,160
right

3579
02:28:08,389 --> 02:28:06,000
yeah well uh maybe they're telling the

3580
02:28:11,830 --> 02:28:08,399
truth that lou was on the show earlier

3581
02:28:13,429 --> 02:28:11,840
talking about uh the funding uh for the

3582
02:28:15,510 --> 02:28:13,439
intelligence bill

3583
02:28:18,950 --> 02:28:15,520
that just went through

3584
02:28:22,550 --> 02:28:18,960
and the language in the bill which i

3585
02:28:25,190 --> 02:28:22,560
have i have uh the actual bill here

3586
02:28:27,030 --> 02:28:25,200
um i'm not going to say how i got it and

3587
02:28:28,309 --> 02:28:27,040
don't anybody ask for it you're not

3588
02:28:29,750 --> 02:28:28,319
going to see it and i'm not going to

3589
02:28:32,070 --> 02:28:29,760
send it to you

3590
02:28:34,630 --> 02:28:32,080
but the language in that is pretty

3591
02:28:36,870 --> 02:28:34,640
dramatic uh kevin

3592
02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:36,880
where they're talking about

3593
02:28:41,429 --> 02:28:38,800
uh

3594
02:28:44,630 --> 02:28:41,439
if anything is retrieved

3595
02:28:46,790 --> 02:28:44,640
any debris from a uap

3596
02:28:47,910 --> 02:28:46,800
uh that that information needs to be

3597
02:28:49,750 --> 02:28:47,920
shared

3598
02:28:52,230 --> 02:28:49,760
and i'm like what kind of

3599
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:52,240
what are they saying here

3600
02:28:57,110 --> 02:28:53,520
debris

3601
02:28:58,870 --> 02:28:57,120
right parts from a uap

3602
02:29:02,790 --> 02:28:58,880
ufo

3603
02:29:05,110 --> 02:29:02,800
that that's in that's in a funding bill

3604
02:29:06,630 --> 02:29:05,120
how crazy is that

3605
02:29:08,309 --> 02:29:06,640
yeah

3606
02:29:10,070 --> 02:29:08,319
i i don't i think they're scratching

3607
02:29:11,270 --> 02:29:10,080
their heads like we are

3608
02:29:12,469 --> 02:29:11,280
they want to

3609
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,479
i think they're being absolutely

3610
02:29:16,309 --> 02:29:14,319
truthful when they say these are real

3611
02:29:17,429 --> 02:29:16,319
and we don't know what the hell it is i

3612
02:29:19,030 --> 02:29:17,439
think

3613
02:29:20,950 --> 02:29:19,040
my gut instinct is they're telling the

3614
02:29:22,870 --> 02:29:20,960
truth i'm not one of these conspiracy

3615
02:29:24,710 --> 02:29:22,880
nuts and anti-government people i

3616
02:29:26,309 --> 02:29:24,720
actually love and support my government

3617
02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:26,319
i know it's not a popular thing to say

3618
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:28,479
nowadays but that's who i am

3619
02:29:31,750 --> 02:29:30,319
and i actually believe them in this case

3620
02:29:33,429 --> 02:29:31,760
i really do i think they're telling the

3621
02:29:34,950 --> 02:29:33,439
truth about this they don't know what

3622
02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:34,960
these things are

3623
02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:38,080
any and i've got one minute left kevin

3624
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:40,960
uh the obvious question

3625
02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:44,240
any any interference uh lately in your

3626
02:29:50,710 --> 02:29:47,600
life uh men in black anybody reach out

3627
02:29:54,309 --> 02:29:50,720
to you has there been anything strange

3628
02:29:56,950 --> 02:29:54,319
going on uh maybe to suggest uh that you

3629
02:30:00,150 --> 02:29:56,960
keep to yourself

3630
02:30:02,150 --> 02:30:00,160
uh quite the opposite i um have been

3631
02:30:04,070 --> 02:30:02,160
left entirely alone

3632
02:30:06,389 --> 02:30:04,080
now i've been also very careful about

3633
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:06,399
what i say and who i say it to

3634
02:30:11,590 --> 02:30:07,840
um because as you know i've been on a

3635
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:11,600
number of programs of stuff now but um

3636
02:30:14,070 --> 02:30:12,960
no i haven't been bothered by my

3637
02:30:15,190 --> 02:30:14,080
government

3638
02:30:17,510 --> 02:30:15,200
nope

3639
02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:20,469
and i don't believe that i will be

3640
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:26,230
i'm a patriot and i love my government

3641
02:30:28,870 --> 02:30:27,840
yeah i know it's not a popular thing to

3642
02:30:30,230 --> 02:30:28,880
say but

3643
02:30:32,070 --> 02:30:30,240
for me it's true

3644
02:30:34,469 --> 02:30:32,080
and it's quite all right my man that's

3645
02:30:36,630 --> 02:30:34,479
quite all right i want to thank you uh

3646
02:30:38,630 --> 02:30:36,640
for taking the time to come on tonight

3647
02:30:40,309 --> 02:30:38,640
and i want the audience to know when

3648
02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:40,319
when kevin and i first started talking

3649
02:30:44,790 --> 02:30:42,640
about this his excitement about coming

3650
02:30:47,429 --> 02:30:44,800
on to fade to black to just

3651
02:30:50,070 --> 02:30:47,439
have the opportunity to just lay it all

3652
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:50,080
out there and and he just couldn't wait

3653
02:30:52,630 --> 02:30:51,280
for tonight

3654
02:30:55,030 --> 02:30:52,640
and i

3655
02:30:57,670 --> 02:30:55,040
you certainly did not disappoint kevin

3656
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:57,680
thank you so much my man and and my best

3657
02:31:00,710 --> 02:30:58,960
to you

3658
02:31:02,389 --> 02:31:00,720
yeah thank you and uh to all your

3659
02:31:04,070 --> 02:31:02,399
wonderful listeners uh thank you for

3660
02:31:06,790 --> 02:31:04,080
listening to us tonight and it's been my

3661
02:31:09,830 --> 02:31:06,800
pleasure and honor jimmy i can't wait

3662
02:31:11,910 --> 02:31:09,840
now what we're gonna do next time around

3663
02:31:14,630 --> 02:31:11,920
we're with tonight we talked about 50

3664
02:31:17,590 --> 02:31:14,640
subjects the next time you come on we'll

3665
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:17,600
grab one and we'll focus on it and stay

3666
02:31:21,510 --> 02:31:19,840
right there and i can't wait for the

3667
02:31:22,870 --> 02:31:21,520
next conversation kevin thank you so

3668
02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:22,880
much

3669
02:31:26,710 --> 02:31:25,120
thank you we'll talk soon and and i want

3670
02:31:27,510 --> 02:31:26,720
you to send me

3671
02:31:29,590 --> 02:31:27,520
uh

3672
02:31:31,349 --> 02:31:29,600
who makes those headphones you should

3673
02:31:34,790 --> 02:31:31,359
see what kevin's wearing

3674
02:31:37,510 --> 02:31:34,800
i have never seen anything like this

3675
02:31:39,510 --> 02:31:37,520
that's george lucas man

3676
02:31:41,429 --> 02:31:39,520
you got it i'll talk to you

3677
02:31:43,270 --> 02:31:41,439
kevin dave thank you thank you so much

3678
02:31:45,110 --> 02:31:43,280
kevin kevin day i'm going to take a

3679
02:31:47,510 --> 02:31:45,120
quick break right here this is fade to

3680
02:31:49,510 --> 02:31:47,520
black i am your host jimmy church

3681
02:31:51,110 --> 02:31:49,520
kevin dave thank you so much what a

3682
02:31:55,110 --> 02:31:51,120
great conversation

3683
02:31:57,590 --> 02:31:55,120
and he has got the craziest headphones

3684
02:31:59,429 --> 02:31:57,600
lit up stealth

3685
02:32:00,309 --> 02:31:59,439
carbon fiber

3686
02:32:01,510 --> 02:32:00,319
crate

3687
02:32:03,429 --> 02:32:01,520
awesome

3688
02:32:05,030 --> 02:32:03,439
what was on his head tonight thank you

3689
02:32:06,309 --> 02:32:05,040
so much kevin i am your host jimmy

3690
02:32:09,610 --> 02:32:06,319
church i'll be right back after this

3691
02:32:27,750 --> 02:32:09,620
short break stay with us

3692
02:32:30,070 --> 02:32:27,760
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3693
02:32:32,950 --> 02:32:30,080
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3694
02:32:37,190 --> 02:32:32,960
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3695
02:32:48,150 --> 02:32:39,750
despite popular opinion

3696
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3749
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3750
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[Music]

3751
02:36:07,190 --> 02:36:04,389
welcome back fade to black i am your

3752
02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:07,200
host immature thank you kevin day

3753
02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:11,840
so much to unpack uh with that

3754
02:36:18,150 --> 02:36:14,800
uh so much to unpack too many things uh

3755
02:36:20,830 --> 02:36:18,160
just an absolutely uh great conversation

3756
02:36:23,349 --> 02:36:20,840
and then earlier tonight of course lou

3757
02:36:26,950 --> 02:36:23,359
elizondo was on with this

3758
02:36:29,429 --> 02:36:26,960
uh speaking about the language um in the

3759
02:36:32,870 --> 02:36:29,439
funding uh for

3760
02:36:35,670 --> 02:36:32,880
uh intelligence in 2022

3761
02:36:38,790 --> 02:36:35,680
and those uh

3762
02:36:41,990 --> 02:36:38,800
particular comments um

3763
02:36:45,110 --> 02:36:42,000
uh and those five pages in there

3764
02:36:47,270 --> 02:36:45,120
and the five specific blocks

3765
02:36:48,309 --> 02:36:47,280
that that are in this and the language

3766
02:36:51,510 --> 02:36:48,319
on it

3767
02:36:52,790 --> 02:36:51,520
is extremely important and where we are

3768
02:36:56,550 --> 02:36:52,800
today

3769
02:36:58,230 --> 02:36:56,560
um and i i have to stress this

3770
02:36:59,429 --> 02:36:58,240
kevin dave was at the center of all of

3771
02:37:02,630 --> 02:36:59,439
this

3772
02:37:04,710 --> 02:37:02,640
and where we are today and everything

3773
02:37:06,870 --> 02:37:04,720
that has transpired certainly december

3774
02:37:08,950 --> 02:37:06,880
2017 in the new york times and leslie

3775
02:37:09,830 --> 02:37:08,960
kane and rob blumenthal

3776
02:37:12,230 --> 02:37:09,840
and

3777
02:37:13,429 --> 02:37:12,240
the revelations that were made on that

3778
02:37:15,030 --> 02:37:13,439
day

3779
02:37:17,510 --> 02:37:15,040
um

3780
02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:17,520
as it turns out so many

3781
02:37:23,590 --> 02:37:21,280
uh witnesses um have uh come forward and

3782
02:37:25,349 --> 02:37:23,600
have uh spoken about this now kevin day

3783
02:37:29,270 --> 02:37:25,359
was right there

3784
02:37:30,790 --> 02:37:29,280
and uh to uh have the opportunity for

3785
02:37:33,590 --> 02:37:30,800
kevin to come on

3786
02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:33,600
uh fade to black and discuss this not

3787
02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:35,040
only openly

3788
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:37,520
but as a witness to everything that uh

3789
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:39,439
transpired that day i think it's

3790
02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:44,230
sorry something in my throat

3791
02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:55,990
in my fade to black

3792
02:38:00,550 --> 02:37:59,200
thermal mug gifted to me from alisa

3793
02:38:02,150 --> 02:38:00,560
thank you alisa

3794
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:02,160
um

3795
02:38:22,230 --> 02:38:03,600
uh

3796
02:38:25,990 --> 02:38:22,240
that have come forward to support

3797
02:38:27,190 --> 02:38:26,000
everything uh that uh commander fravor

3798
02:38:29,670 --> 02:38:27,200
and uh

3799
02:38:31,510 --> 02:38:29,680
dave fravor and of course alex dietrich

3800
02:38:33,510 --> 02:38:31,520
and and others

3801
02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:33,520
um

3802
02:38:41,190 --> 02:38:38,230
uh oh what happened

3803
02:38:45,110 --> 02:38:41,200
oh don't tell me i'm dropping calls

3804
02:38:48,150 --> 02:38:46,550
okay

3805
02:38:50,469 --> 02:38:48,160
all right

3806
02:38:52,389 --> 02:38:50,479
that was strange uh but it doesn't

3807
02:38:54,710 --> 02:38:52,399
matter it doesn't matter taking calls

3808
02:38:56,389 --> 02:38:54,720
seven four seven two two eight two zero

3809
02:38:58,230 --> 02:38:56,399
five one seven four seven two two eight

3810
02:38:59,110 --> 02:38:58,240
two zero five one

3811
02:39:02,389 --> 02:38:59,120
um

3812
02:39:04,389 --> 02:39:02,399
this is uh one of the

3813
02:39:07,990 --> 02:39:04,399
one of the points

3814
02:39:11,110 --> 02:39:08,000
um that i didn't discuss tonight um uh

3815
02:39:12,710 --> 02:39:11,120
maybe i will at a later date with kevin

3816
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:12,720
is

3817
02:39:16,550 --> 02:39:14,880
these videos

3818
02:39:22,309 --> 02:39:16,560
do they

3819
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:22,319
what the witnesses have talked about

3820
02:39:27,429 --> 02:39:24,880
that's the thing if we didn't have the

3821
02:39:30,870 --> 02:39:27,439
witnesses what are the videos what what

3822
02:39:32,389 --> 02:39:30,880
uh how did they stand um uh uh how did

3823
02:39:34,230 --> 02:39:32,399
they stand up

3824
02:39:35,750 --> 02:39:34,240
right now let's say we didn't have the

3825
02:39:38,790 --> 02:39:35,760
videos

3826
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:38,800
put those to the side remember

3827
02:39:44,790 --> 02:39:42,880
none of the videos are of the incident

3828
02:39:48,950 --> 02:39:44,800
that alex dietrich

3829
02:39:52,309 --> 02:39:48,960
and and dave fraver uh saw that day

3830
02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:52,319
that's not that's not the same incident

3831
02:39:55,349 --> 02:39:53,439
um

3832
02:39:56,790 --> 02:39:55,359
and that's that's important to note here

3833
02:39:57,750 --> 02:39:56,800
because

3834
02:40:01,110 --> 02:39:57,760
what

3835
02:40:02,150 --> 02:40:01,120
uh alex and and and dave have talked

3836
02:40:03,429 --> 02:40:02,160
about

3837
02:40:04,710 --> 02:40:03,439
and chad

3838
02:40:06,469 --> 02:40:04,720
and

3839
02:40:08,950 --> 02:40:06,479
kevin day

3840
02:40:10,710 --> 02:40:08,960
is not in those videos that's not what

3841
02:40:12,870 --> 02:40:10,720
we see we don't see something going from

3842
02:40:15,349 --> 02:40:12,880
28 000 feet to sea level

3843
02:40:16,630 --> 02:40:15,359
in 0.7 seconds no we don't see that we

3844
02:40:19,910 --> 02:40:16,640
don't see something going from 80

3845
02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:19,920
thousand feet to 28 000 feet and staging

3846
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:21,600
that's not what's in these videos so

3847
02:40:25,590 --> 02:40:23,439
let's be very clear

3848
02:40:27,110 --> 02:40:25,600
uh about that that's not that's not

3849
02:40:29,990 --> 02:40:27,120
what's in the videos

3850
02:40:32,870 --> 02:40:30,000
but do they support each other

3851
02:40:34,550 --> 02:40:32,880
so when you bring them all in together

3852
02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:34,560
now we have something else and we have a

3853
02:40:38,630 --> 02:40:36,000
different picture

3854
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:38,640
and and i think that is what is most

3855
02:40:41,510 --> 02:40:40,240
important i've been very critical about

3856
02:40:43,510 --> 02:40:41,520
the videos

3857
02:40:46,070 --> 02:40:43,520
uh for my own reasons

3858
02:40:49,190 --> 02:40:46,080
but that does not

3859
02:40:51,670 --> 02:40:49,200
um in any way i i'm not critical of of

3860
02:40:52,870 --> 02:40:51,680
dave fravor no he saw what he saw alex

3861
02:40:55,510 --> 02:40:52,880
dietrich

3862
02:40:56,870 --> 02:40:55,520
uh uh chad underwood

3863
02:41:00,230 --> 02:40:56,880
dave fraver

3864
02:41:02,469 --> 02:41:00,240
uh gary voorhees these uh

3865
02:41:05,429 --> 02:41:02,479
these are individuals that that

3866
02:41:07,110 --> 02:41:05,439
that went through the incident

3867
02:41:10,389 --> 02:41:07,120
um now

3868
02:41:13,429 --> 02:41:10,399
uh before i get uh to the calls

3869
02:41:15,269 --> 02:41:13,439
a couple of things here now this

3870
02:41:17,590 --> 02:41:15,279
this incident which happened over

3871
02:41:19,429 --> 02:41:17,600
obviously a number of days in november

3872
02:41:21,910 --> 02:41:19,439
of 2004

3873
02:41:23,750 --> 02:41:21,920
this incident um has been picked apart

3874
02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:23,760
but from one angle

3875
02:41:27,590 --> 02:41:25,680
and this is

3876
02:41:29,990 --> 02:41:27,600
my own assessment

3877
02:41:33,910 --> 02:41:30,000
and that's the dave fravor alex dietrich

3878
02:41:35,830 --> 02:41:33,920
uh chad underwood um uh things

3879
02:41:38,710 --> 02:41:35,840
um uh

3880
02:41:42,070 --> 02:41:38,720
and chad underwood going over to

3881
02:41:44,389 --> 02:41:42,080
uh the east coast and recently uh um and

3882
02:41:47,030 --> 02:41:44,399
and the similarities between them so we

3883
02:41:48,150 --> 02:41:47,040
have that part of it but that's that's

3884
02:41:49,910 --> 02:41:48,160
not

3885
02:41:56,230 --> 02:41:49,920
what is most

3886
02:42:00,550 --> 02:41:59,030
we now know

3887
02:42:03,510 --> 02:42:00,560
that

3888
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:03,520
nine or ten

3889
02:42:08,710 --> 02:42:05,040
additional

3890
02:42:10,950 --> 02:42:08,720
flights were launched off of the nimitz

3891
02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:10,960
this according to kevin day

3892
02:42:16,150 --> 02:42:14,560
and and sent out on the day of the first

3893
02:42:18,389 --> 02:42:16,160
incident because there were no flights

3894
02:42:20,630 --> 02:42:18,399
after that yeah i'm dropping calls

3895
02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:20,640
everybody this is bizarre

3896
02:42:24,710 --> 02:42:23,680
um i've now brought in about eight phone

3897
02:42:27,670 --> 02:42:24,720
calls

3898
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:27,680
and and they sit there for just

3899
02:42:32,870 --> 02:42:30,560
just a second so something's going on in

3900
02:42:34,710 --> 02:42:32,880
in the software so if you're calling in

3901
02:42:36,309 --> 02:42:34,720
i don't know what's going on

3902
02:42:38,150 --> 02:42:36,319
i'm watching it come in and blink out

3903
02:42:39,349 --> 02:42:38,160
come in and blink out

3904
02:42:41,750 --> 02:42:39,359
that

3905
02:42:43,670 --> 02:42:41,760
nine or ten additional flights went out

3906
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:43,680
to go to

3907
02:42:46,230 --> 02:42:44,960
where

3908
02:42:52,150 --> 02:42:46,240
these

3909
02:42:54,710 --> 02:42:52,160
staging at 28 000 feet and then going to

3910
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:54,720
sea level uh there were additional

3911
02:42:57,269 --> 02:42:56,240
objects out there

3912
02:43:00,469 --> 02:42:57,279
and

3913
02:43:04,790 --> 02:43:02,870
is part of the launch of nine or ten

3914
02:43:06,830 --> 02:43:04,800
additional flights to go to these and

3915
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:06,840
that each one of these

3916
02:43:11,269 --> 02:43:09,760
planes uh each one of these fighter jets

3917
02:43:12,630 --> 02:43:11,279
had to have been

3918
02:43:14,309 --> 02:43:12,640
running

3919
02:43:15,990 --> 02:43:14,319
video

3920
02:43:18,630 --> 02:43:16,000
that was their job

3921
02:43:20,389 --> 02:43:18,640
and kevin clearly stated we have to

3922
02:43:22,550 --> 02:43:20,399
assume this and i said this we have to

3923
02:43:25,590 --> 02:43:22,560
assume that this is what is going on

3924
02:43:29,030 --> 02:43:25,600
that they're all recording video of of

3925
02:43:33,110 --> 02:43:32,309
so it's just not fraver and fravor's

3926
02:43:36,550 --> 02:43:33,120
uh

3927
02:43:38,550 --> 02:43:36,560
video has not been seen

3928
02:43:40,950 --> 02:43:38,560
you know we have to think about this for

3929
02:43:43,590 --> 02:43:40,960
fravor's video hasn't been seen what we

3930
02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:43,600
have seen is not fravor's video so what

3931
02:43:47,349 --> 02:43:44,800
happened to that

3932
02:43:49,190 --> 02:43:47,359
the other additional flights that took

3933
02:43:51,830 --> 02:43:49,200
off those nine or ten

3934
02:43:53,030 --> 02:43:51,840
where's that video

3935
02:43:56,550 --> 02:43:53,040
where is it

3936
02:43:58,469 --> 02:43:56,560
and why isn't somebody asking i'm not

3937
02:44:01,030 --> 02:43:58,479
talking about atip i'm not talking about

3938
02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:01,040
you a ptf i'm talking about

3939
02:44:07,670 --> 02:44:03,760
our elected officials

3940
02:44:09,349 --> 02:44:07,680
why aren't they demanding if this is uh

3941
02:44:12,070 --> 02:44:09,359
part of the record

3942
02:44:13,110 --> 02:44:12,080
and and all of this happened where's the

3943
02:44:18,710 --> 02:44:13,120
video

3944
02:44:19,910 --> 02:44:18,720
where's alex dietrich's

3945
02:44:23,670 --> 02:44:19,920
video

3946
02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:23,680
it exists and there's no way that no uh

3947
02:44:28,469 --> 02:44:25,600
it got deleted we didn't need it it

3948
02:44:30,309 --> 02:44:28,479
wasn't interesting it doesn't exist no

3949
02:44:32,630 --> 02:44:30,319
that video's out there

3950
02:44:35,110 --> 02:44:32,640
a lot of it

3951
02:44:36,469 --> 02:44:35,120
hours and hours and hours and hours of

3952
02:44:39,429 --> 02:44:36,479
video

3953
02:44:42,790 --> 02:44:39,439
need to think about it in those terms

3954
02:44:44,389 --> 02:44:42,800
i i'm i'm perplexed

3955
02:44:46,790 --> 02:44:44,399
perplexed

3956
02:44:49,349 --> 02:44:46,800
you know i mean it's like the obvious

3957
02:44:50,790 --> 02:44:49,359
for anybody out there

3958
02:44:52,950 --> 02:44:50,800
the first thing you're gonna say wait a

3959
02:44:55,830 --> 02:44:52,960
minute nine or ten flights

3960
02:44:57,429 --> 02:44:55,840
uh more objects that day favors out

3961
02:44:59,429 --> 02:44:57,439
there dietrich's out there this stuff is

3962
02:45:02,469 --> 02:44:59,439
dropping out of the sky we've got

3963
02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:02,479
fighter jets f-18s launching off of the

3964
02:45:09,030 --> 02:45:05,680
nimitz filming all of this

3965
02:45:11,269 --> 02:45:09,040
where's the video that's the first thing

3966
02:45:12,870 --> 02:45:11,279
that anybody's gonna ask why isn't

3967
02:45:14,389 --> 02:45:12,880
somebody on the senate intelligence

3968
02:45:16,630 --> 02:45:14,399
committee publicly

3969
02:45:18,469 --> 02:45:16,640
i mean saying why isn't

3970
02:45:22,150 --> 02:45:18,479
somebody on tucker why isn't tucker

3971
02:45:24,950 --> 02:45:22,160
asking that why just why i don't get it

3972
02:45:26,830 --> 02:45:24,960
i don't get it i mean isn't isn't am i

3973
02:45:29,910 --> 02:45:26,840
just stating the obvious

3974
02:45:31,110 --> 02:45:29,920
here all right let's go to the phones hi

3975
02:45:35,349 --> 02:45:31,120
you're live on fade to black who's

3976
02:45:38,309 --> 02:45:36,389
oh

3977
02:45:39,590 --> 02:45:38,319
oops that was me

3978
02:45:41,590 --> 02:45:39,600
that was me

3979
02:45:43,590 --> 02:45:41,600
all right let's try this again hi you're

3980
02:45:47,030 --> 02:45:43,600
live on fade to block who's calling

3981
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:49,990
me mute me in the background

3982
02:45:53,750 --> 02:45:51,840
you're muted okay

3983
02:45:56,790 --> 02:45:53,760
you're muted

3984
02:45:58,870 --> 02:45:56,800
can you hear me yeah i had like uh eight

3985
02:46:00,230 --> 02:45:58,880
calls in front of you

3986
02:46:02,070 --> 02:46:00,240
and they all

3987
02:46:04,070 --> 02:46:02,080
as i brought them in they they pinged

3988
02:46:05,590 --> 02:46:04,080
out pinged out pinged out hanging down

3989
02:46:07,750 --> 02:46:05,600
that's because that's because i have

3990
02:46:09,510 --> 02:46:07,760
special powers okay okay stay right i

3991
02:46:10,790 --> 02:46:09,520
know that by now okay deb stay right

3992
02:46:12,950 --> 02:46:10,800
there stay right there stay right there

3993
02:46:14,710 --> 02:46:12,960
don't go anywhere don't go anywhere i'm

3994
02:46:17,110 --> 02:46:14,720
testing this software

3995
02:46:20,070 --> 02:46:17,120
um everything's lighting up let's see if

3996
02:46:21,349 --> 02:46:20,080
this stays right there i'm gonna put you

3997
02:46:25,750 --> 02:46:21,359
on hold

3998
02:46:27,349 --> 02:46:25,760
do not go anywhere okay all right let's

3999
02:46:30,309 --> 02:46:27,359
see if

4000
02:46:33,110 --> 02:46:30,319
uh those calls hold

4001
02:46:35,030 --> 02:46:33,120
okay i'm back deb i'm i'm testing your

4002
02:46:37,190 --> 02:46:35,040
bunker kit and your bunker cam is off

4003
02:46:40,230 --> 02:46:37,200
why don't you turn that on oh the bunker

4004
02:46:42,150 --> 02:46:40,240
cam's off nah ali has been

4005
02:46:43,990 --> 02:46:42,160
it's off it has been what do you mean

4006
02:46:46,309 --> 02:46:44,000
yes it's been off since you came back on

4007
02:46:48,790 --> 02:46:46,319
hon i i don't know i don't know these

4008
02:46:51,750 --> 02:46:48,800
things look at it no that's well that's

4009
02:46:53,269 --> 02:46:51,760
in another part of the studio i'm i'm on

4010
02:47:00,309 --> 02:46:53,279
i'm here

4011
02:47:05,110 --> 02:47:02,710
anyway it's bad radio that's bad i don't

4012
02:47:07,910 --> 02:47:05,120
have the youtube chat up i don't

4013
02:47:10,309 --> 02:47:07,920
i i don't have that up okay so anyway

4014
02:47:11,110 --> 02:47:10,319
uh what's going on oh thank you for the

4015
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:11,120
uh

4016
02:47:14,389 --> 02:47:12,800
thank you for the sunglasses they're

4017
02:47:16,230 --> 02:47:14,399
very cool you

4018
02:47:18,070 --> 02:47:16,240
you're welcome i have a master plan for

4019
02:47:20,150 --> 02:47:18,080
those those are to make you very very

4020
02:47:22,309 --> 02:47:20,160
rich because when you go to these secret

4021
02:47:24,070 --> 02:47:22,319
meetings at conferences and things you

4022
02:47:26,070 --> 02:47:24,080
can be taping people and have tons of

4023
02:47:28,309 --> 02:47:26,080
blackmail video on the very rich ones

4024
02:47:29,510 --> 02:47:28,319
that are there if there are any

4025
02:47:32,230 --> 02:47:29,520
because there's not a lot of money in

4026
02:47:35,190 --> 02:47:32,240
this business there you go now i see you

4027
02:47:38,150 --> 02:47:35,200
and um you know you can use those to be

4028
02:47:40,870 --> 02:47:38,160
very stealthy and use them for very

4029
02:47:43,269 --> 02:47:40,880
nefarious purposes and that's that's my

4030
02:47:45,990 --> 02:47:43,279
plan here what do you think about that

4031
02:47:47,910 --> 02:47:46,000
sure uh uh yeah sure

4032
02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:47,920
are are you still talking are you still

4033
02:47:51,830 --> 02:47:49,840
talking what did you say

4034
02:47:52,950 --> 02:47:51,840
i'm kidding

4035
02:47:54,380 --> 02:47:52,960
i just

4036
02:47:56,070 --> 02:47:54,390
i walked away i um

4037
02:47:59,830 --> 02:47:56,080
[Music]

4038
02:48:03,190 --> 02:47:59,840
i have uh stuff going on okay so anyway

4039
02:48:06,469 --> 02:48:03,200
um and thank you uh for these this is

4040
02:48:08,309 --> 02:48:06,479
um as i oh these these um i'm holding

4041
02:48:10,870 --> 02:48:08,319
them up to the camera these are

4042
02:48:12,950 --> 02:48:10,880
the wayfarer uh stories

4043
02:48:15,030 --> 02:48:12,960
and very difficult to open this box by

4044
02:48:18,070 --> 02:48:15,040
the way i was gonna do an unboxing video

4045
02:48:20,630 --> 02:48:18,080
today and uh that would have been really

4046
02:48:22,469 --> 02:48:20,640
bad because uh

4047
02:48:26,309 --> 02:48:22,479
it's like fort knox

4048
02:48:28,230 --> 02:48:26,319
anyway so i did uh i did i did open them

4049
02:48:30,950 --> 02:48:28,240
up i'm showing them

4050
02:48:32,950 --> 02:48:30,960
now to the camera so this is

4051
02:48:35,670 --> 02:48:32,960
this is very nice i've got lots of

4052
02:48:38,469 --> 02:48:35,680
ray-ban cases i've got many pairs of

4053
02:48:40,389 --> 02:48:38,479
ray-bans nothing quite as cool as this

4054
02:48:42,950 --> 02:48:40,399
and there they are i'm holding them up

4055
02:48:45,030 --> 02:48:42,960
to the camera i don't know if uh

4056
02:48:46,950 --> 02:48:45,040
yeah i thought i just thought yeah okay

4057
02:48:51,030 --> 02:48:46,960
so there they are good

4058
02:48:53,830 --> 02:48:51,040
yeah and now the the glasses themselves

4059
02:48:55,990 --> 02:48:53,840
i mean you can't honestly

4060
02:48:58,070 --> 02:48:56,000
unless you know what you're looking for

4061
02:49:00,389 --> 02:48:58,080
you're not going to see the cameras so

4062
02:49:01,349 --> 02:49:00,399
i'm holding them up there's a camera

4063
02:49:06,550 --> 02:49:01,359
here

4064
02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:06,560
i haven't booted these up yet

4065
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:08,560
um i know that there's software and

4066
02:49:13,429 --> 02:49:10,240
things but uh

4067
02:49:15,670 --> 02:49:13,439
uh i will uh i will get active with

4068
02:49:17,590 --> 02:49:15,680
these uh very soon

4069
02:49:19,349 --> 02:49:17,600
and uh get them all set up and we'll see

4070
02:49:22,230 --> 02:49:19,359
we'll see how these things work

4071
02:49:24,389 --> 02:49:22,240
very very nice we want to see some we

4072
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:24,399
want to see some compelling uh some

4073
02:49:31,750 --> 02:49:28,960
compelling blackmail videos on camera

4074
02:49:34,309 --> 02:49:31,760
and we we shall do that for sure it was

4075
02:49:38,230 --> 02:49:34,319
really weird today i got uh

4076
02:49:40,630 --> 02:49:38,240
and after after my post uh today

4077
02:49:43,830 --> 02:49:40,640
um uh

4078
02:49:45,830 --> 02:49:43,840
before i i got like six

4079
02:49:46,870 --> 02:49:45,840
six birthday gifts came in the mail

4080
02:49:47,750 --> 02:49:46,880
today

4081
02:49:49,670 --> 02:49:47,760
and

4082
02:49:50,790 --> 02:49:49,680
uh

4083
02:49:52,950 --> 02:49:50,800
all

4084
02:49:58,389 --> 02:49:52,960
but one

4085
02:49:59,429 --> 02:49:58,399
and so i got no return addresses i got

4086
02:50:01,269 --> 02:49:59,439
nothing

4087
02:50:02,630 --> 02:50:01,279
they're just showing up

4088
02:50:03,830 --> 02:50:02,640
and

4089
02:50:06,150 --> 02:50:03,840
i'm just like

4090
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:06,160
what so now i gotta post a series of

4091
02:50:11,429 --> 02:50:09,760
tweets uh tomorrow uh and and i couldn't

4092
02:50:12,630 --> 02:50:11,439
do it on facebook because facebook was

4093
02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:12,640
down today

4094
02:50:17,269 --> 02:50:14,560
but um you know some people don't use

4095
02:50:19,750 --> 02:50:17,279
twitter so they don't know what i said

4096
02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:19,760
but i've gotta okay who sent me what

4097
02:50:26,150 --> 02:50:22,720
just tell me what you sent i can't i

4098
02:50:28,070 --> 02:50:26,160
can't say what was sent i can't do that

4099
02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:28,080
i got to be all cryptic

4100
02:50:31,510 --> 02:50:29,600
and uh

4101
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:31,520
and like i did with the sunglasses but

4102
02:50:35,510 --> 02:50:34,000
you clearly were the senders of those

4103
02:50:36,950 --> 02:50:35,520
because i saw your tweet and that was

4104
02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:36,960
pretty funny okay

4105
02:50:41,510 --> 02:50:39,600
um yeah well you know it was eventually

4106
02:50:43,269 --> 02:50:41,520
originally it was going to be that ufo

4107
02:50:46,950 --> 02:50:43,279
lamp but um

4108
02:50:48,429 --> 02:50:46,960
what was his name marco or uh ramon is

4109
02:50:51,190 --> 02:50:48,439
amazing

4110
02:50:53,269 --> 02:50:51,200
yeah he gave him he brought him to the

4111
02:50:54,870 --> 02:50:53,279
um pasadena thing right

4112
02:50:56,070 --> 02:50:54,880
the premiere uh

4113
02:51:01,590 --> 02:50:56,080
yes

4114
02:51:03,510 --> 02:51:01,600
beat me to it but the the thing you

4115
02:51:06,550 --> 02:51:03,520
don't know i've got connections so i got

4116
02:51:08,469 --> 02:51:06,560
those for half off

4117
02:51:09,510 --> 02:51:08,479
so i decided to take advantage of it

4118
02:51:12,389 --> 02:51:09,520
yeah

4119
02:51:15,349 --> 02:51:12,399
so there you go okay well but um i can't

4120
02:51:18,790 --> 02:51:15,359
wait to fire these up and uh

4121
02:51:19,510 --> 02:51:18,800
uh we shall see i'm i'm serious man if

4122
02:51:24,870 --> 02:51:19,520
i'm

4123
02:51:27,190 --> 02:51:24,880
with those on nobody's gonna know nobody

4124
02:51:29,030 --> 02:51:27,200
now if i'm sitting next to somebody and

4125
02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:29,040
they're looking at me

4126
02:51:34,550 --> 02:51:30,960
they they i don't know they might be

4127
02:51:38,230 --> 02:51:34,560
able to figure it out but um but no they

4128
02:51:40,070 --> 02:51:38,240
they are definitely clandestine

4129
02:51:41,510 --> 02:51:40,080
clandestine you know what they will be

4130
02:51:44,070 --> 02:51:41,520
really good for

4131
02:51:46,630 --> 02:51:44,080
is live streaming while you're driving

4132
02:51:49,349 --> 02:51:46,640
or riding a motorcycle or

4133
02:51:51,190 --> 02:51:49,359
or walking through a crowd or anything

4134
02:51:53,990 --> 02:51:51,200
like that so you get the

4135
02:51:55,429 --> 02:51:54,000
the first person pov point of view yeah

4136
02:51:57,269 --> 02:51:55,439
that's pretty cool right yeah it's

4137
02:51:59,110 --> 02:51:57,279
pretty perfect well i've got a blue i

4138
02:52:01,429 --> 02:51:59,120
got a blue pair i ordered myself a blue

4139
02:52:02,630 --> 02:52:01,439
pair so when i come to laughlin my

4140
02:52:04,230 --> 02:52:02,640
friend goes you gotta wear yours a

4141
02:52:06,230 --> 02:52:04,240
waffle and then when you walk in you'll

4142
02:52:07,590 --> 02:52:06,240
see figure out he won't know who you are

4143
02:52:10,150 --> 02:52:07,600
because you and i haven't met in person

4144
02:52:14,150 --> 02:52:10,160
yet we'll see who can film room secretly

4145
02:52:20,150 --> 02:52:17,429
so that's your plan okay all right all

4146
02:52:22,550 --> 02:52:20,160
right well i mean my plan has many

4147
02:52:24,469 --> 02:52:22,560
facets jimmy okay but in lieu of you

4148
02:52:25,670 --> 02:52:24,479
know i i didn't get to send you a card

4149
02:52:27,190 --> 02:52:25,680
with it because

4150
02:52:28,950 --> 02:52:27,200
it was just jacked up they wouldn't let

4151
02:52:31,590 --> 02:52:28,960
you send it as a gift they wouldn't let

4152
02:52:33,510 --> 02:52:31,600
you include a message you know facebook

4153
02:52:34,550 --> 02:52:33,520
sucks so anyway

4154
02:52:38,070 --> 02:52:34,560
but anyway

4155
02:52:41,429 --> 02:52:38,080
so i sent you an email to to substitute

4156
02:52:43,990 --> 02:52:41,439
for it you can check that out later okay

4157
02:52:47,030 --> 02:52:44,000
anyway well thank you for this

4158
02:52:49,910 --> 02:52:47,040
thank you for this and i will make sure

4159
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:49,920
that somebody at laughlin

4160
02:52:54,469 --> 02:52:52,080
hangs a sign on your back when you don't

4161
02:52:56,230 --> 02:52:54,479
know that says i'm secretly taping

4162
02:52:58,870 --> 02:52:56,240
everybody and you're going to walk

4163
02:53:01,030 --> 02:52:58,880
around uh getting funny stares from

4164
02:53:02,950 --> 02:53:01,040
people so i'll take care of that you'll

4165
02:53:04,950 --> 02:53:02,960
try to get you'll try to get eric to do

4166
02:53:07,030 --> 02:53:04,960
it but i can see him coming a mile away

4167
02:53:09,670 --> 02:53:07,040
because he's like what six seven feet

4168
02:53:11,590 --> 02:53:09,680
tall or something no one's gonna get me

4169
02:53:14,309 --> 02:53:11,600
i'm way too fast okay good luck with

4170
02:53:15,510 --> 02:53:14,319
that i have my ways deb enjoy the rest

4171
02:53:18,309 --> 02:53:15,520
of your night

4172
02:53:19,670 --> 02:53:18,319
thank you for the amazing birthday gift

4173
02:53:22,469 --> 02:53:19,680
you're welcome honey and anyone who

4174
02:53:24,710 --> 02:53:22,479
hasn't taken that bunker cam tour i mean

4175
02:53:26,469 --> 02:53:24,720
you know your bunker tour i watched it

4176
02:53:28,309 --> 02:53:26,479
it was fantastic you guys if you haven't

4177
02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:28,319
seen it you gotta go tour it it's it's

4178
02:53:32,469 --> 02:53:29,680
amazing

4179
02:53:34,070 --> 02:53:32,479
so there you go thank you thanks jimmy

4180
02:53:36,309 --> 02:53:34,080
thank you for the birthday

4181
02:53:37,990 --> 02:53:36,319
and and you're you're welcome see you

4182
02:53:40,550 --> 02:53:38,000
tomorrow

4183
02:53:42,309 --> 02:53:40,560
okay and good night or not

4184
02:53:43,990 --> 02:53:42,319
deb from

4185
02:53:45,110 --> 02:53:44,000
sacramento it's time to fade to black

4186
02:53:46,630 --> 02:53:45,120
thank you deb

4187
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:46,640
and uh

4188
02:53:52,630 --> 02:53:50,000
yeah very very very cool gift from her

4189
02:53:54,469 --> 02:53:52,640
and from everybody uh that

4190
02:53:57,269 --> 02:53:54,479
uh sent things to that man it was just

4191
02:53:58,389 --> 02:53:57,279
like wow i'm overwhelmed uh very very

4192
02:54:00,070 --> 02:53:58,399
cool all right let's go back to the

4193
02:54:03,510 --> 02:54:00,080
phones hi you're live i'm fade to black

4194
02:54:08,550 --> 02:54:04,830
oh jimmy

4195
02:54:11,269 --> 02:54:08,560
yes oh this is pet strat

4196
02:54:12,630 --> 02:54:11,279
this is pat stratt oh hey pat how you

4197
02:54:16,870 --> 02:54:12,640
doing

4198
02:54:18,389 --> 02:54:16,880
uh what's on your mind it won't cost

4199
02:54:22,070 --> 02:54:18,399
one call tonight

4200
02:54:25,590 --> 02:54:22,080
okay uh as far as all those videos

4201
02:54:29,670 --> 02:54:25,600
i think they i think they know

4202
02:54:32,830 --> 02:54:29,680
just figuring out how to how to do it

4203
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:34,710
well uh

4204
02:54:37,990 --> 02:54:36,640
nobody's talking you know i i think the

4205
02:54:40,389 --> 02:54:38,000
government's trying to figure out how

4206
02:54:43,269 --> 02:54:40,399
they're going to do it this disclosure

4207
02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:47,990
yes it is yes yes it is continue

4208
02:54:52,790 --> 02:54:50,560
and uh sorry um

4209
02:54:55,190 --> 02:54:52,800
what i'm saying if these things are here

4210
02:54:57,670 --> 02:54:55,200
or have been here

4211
02:54:58,870 --> 02:54:57,680
they're playing with the military

4212
02:55:00,630 --> 02:54:58,880
and

4213
02:55:02,469 --> 02:55:00,640
maybe it's just hypothetical he says

4214
02:55:03,990 --> 02:55:02,479
well we're here so what are you going to

4215
02:55:06,389 --> 02:55:04,000
do about it

4216
02:55:08,870 --> 02:55:06,399
so it kind of leaves us

4217
02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:08,880
kind of at least in my opinion leaves us

4218
02:55:13,190 --> 02:55:10,800
as a planet as sheep

4219
02:55:17,590 --> 02:55:15,670
yeah yeah yeah maybe uh and thank you

4220
02:55:19,269 --> 02:55:17,600
for the phone call pat my comment on

4221
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:19,279
that is this

4222
02:55:22,550 --> 02:55:21,040
um i

4223
02:55:25,190 --> 02:55:22,560
i don't

4224
02:55:26,070 --> 02:55:25,200
uh agree

4225
02:55:29,510 --> 02:55:26,080
uh

4226
02:55:31,269 --> 02:55:29,520
with kevin on on one point and for

4227
02:55:33,110 --> 02:55:31,279
others that have said the same thing

4228
02:55:35,269 --> 02:55:33,120
including the government

4229
02:55:37,190 --> 02:55:35,279
um that the the government is still

4230
02:55:40,309 --> 02:55:37,200
trying to figure this out and and they

4231
02:55:41,190 --> 02:55:40,319
don't know what's going on

4232
02:55:42,630 --> 02:55:41,200
they

4233
02:55:44,550 --> 02:55:42,640
have been

4234
02:55:47,030 --> 02:55:44,560
filming

4235
02:55:51,830 --> 02:55:47,040
and photographing

4236
02:55:53,269 --> 02:55:51,840
and collecting data on ufos for over 70

4237
02:55:56,710 --> 02:55:53,279
years

4238
02:55:58,550 --> 02:55:56,720
the tic tac and the go fast and the

4239
02:56:00,550 --> 02:55:58,560
gimbal videos

4240
02:56:01,590 --> 02:56:00,560
are crap

4241
02:56:03,429 --> 02:56:01,600
crap

4242
02:56:07,590 --> 02:56:03,439
they show nothing

4243
02:56:10,950 --> 02:56:07,600
they are sitting on

4244
02:56:14,389 --> 02:56:10,960
data that they have collected uh

4245
02:56:16,630 --> 02:56:14,399
both on film

4246
02:56:17,670 --> 02:56:16,640
on video

4247
02:56:20,150 --> 02:56:17,680
on

4248
02:56:21,750 --> 02:56:20,160
still cameras

4249
02:56:24,790 --> 02:56:21,760
for decades

4250
02:56:27,910 --> 02:56:24,800
they've got all kinds of stuff and

4251
02:56:30,230 --> 02:56:27,920
everything that goes with it

4252
02:56:31,990 --> 02:56:30,240
got all the uh uh

4253
02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:32,000
eyewitness testimony i'm not talking

4254
02:56:36,309 --> 02:56:34,240
about just the military the military's

4255
02:56:39,269 --> 02:56:36,319
got tons of stuff

4256
02:56:40,950 --> 02:56:39,279
but you have nasa you have other footage

4257
02:56:42,469 --> 02:56:40,960
uh that has been shot you have

4258
02:56:43,269 --> 02:56:42,479
satellites you have

4259
02:56:45,990 --> 02:56:43,279
uh

4260
02:56:49,349 --> 02:56:46,000
all of that radar data not not

4261
02:56:52,710 --> 02:56:49,359
not only in a modern context like a 2020

4262
02:56:55,790 --> 02:56:52,720
context 2015 2010 you got radar data

4263
02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:55,800
going back to at least

4264
02:57:00,389 --> 02:56:58,640
1952. they've got that data from

4265
02:57:02,389 --> 02:57:00,399
washington dc

4266
02:57:05,269 --> 02:57:02,399
three different radar stations

4267
02:57:07,590 --> 02:57:05,279
washington d.c they've got all of that

4268
02:57:09,349 --> 02:57:07,600
data they scrambled jets

4269
02:57:10,950 --> 02:57:09,359
in 1952.

4270
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:10,960
they've got this stuff and they have

4271
02:57:14,790 --> 02:57:13,600
been collecting it for a very very very

4272
02:57:17,830 --> 02:57:14,800
long time

4273
02:57:19,990 --> 02:57:17,840
the real stuff so for the government to

4274
02:57:22,830 --> 02:57:20,000
say that they know nothing they know a

4275
02:57:24,389 --> 02:57:22,840
lot in fact they probably know

4276
02:57:28,710 --> 02:57:24,399
everything

4277
02:57:30,870 --> 02:57:28,720
what is behind

4278
02:57:31,750 --> 02:57:30,880
their contact

4279
02:57:36,230 --> 02:57:31,760
they do

4280
02:57:39,030 --> 02:57:36,240
everything about every extraterrestrial

4281
02:57:40,389 --> 02:57:39,040
civilization in the milky way no of

4282
02:57:44,070 --> 02:57:40,399
course not

4283
02:57:46,710 --> 02:57:44,080
i mean it's it's tens of millions of

4284
02:57:48,309 --> 02:57:46,720
civilizations if not billions

4285
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:48,319
just in our milky way does the

4286
02:57:53,910 --> 02:57:51,040
government collect data on billions of

4287
02:57:57,190 --> 02:57:53,920
etcs no it's impossible

4288
02:58:00,870 --> 02:57:57,200
but they know what's going on they know

4289
02:58:04,070 --> 02:58:00,880
et is visiting us they've made contact

4290
02:58:07,030 --> 02:58:04,080
for for the language in that spending

4291
02:58:10,389 --> 02:58:07,040
bill the budget the intelligence

4292
02:58:12,870 --> 02:58:10,399
uh budget for 2022

4293
02:58:15,429 --> 02:58:12,880
for the language in that bill to clearly

4294
02:58:19,429 --> 02:58:15,439
state well uh we've got to study and

4295
02:58:21,990 --> 02:58:19,439
disclose and and and and make aware and

4296
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:22,000
report on any debris

4297
02:58:27,510 --> 02:58:25,120
from any uaps what

4298
02:58:29,349 --> 02:58:27,520
debris so where did that language come

4299
02:58:35,910 --> 02:58:29,359
from

4300
02:58:38,389 --> 02:58:35,920
and haven't been sharing their knowledge

4301
02:58:40,309 --> 02:58:38,399
that's sharing that data that's why the

4302
02:58:43,670 --> 02:58:40,319
language is in there it's not about well

4303
02:58:45,910 --> 02:58:43,680
in the future if we you know if if a uap

4304
02:58:47,750 --> 02:58:45,920
crashes then we need to you know when we

4305
02:58:49,990 --> 02:58:47,760
collect that you know the debris we need

4306
02:58:51,910 --> 02:58:50,000
to uh that's not what that language is

4307
02:58:53,750 --> 02:58:51,920
in there for language is in there

4308
02:58:55,349 --> 02:58:53,760
because they know

4309
02:58:56,870 --> 02:58:55,359
that stuff has been collected in the

4310
02:58:59,269 --> 02:58:56,880
past

4311
02:59:01,990 --> 02:58:59,279
we have crash retrievals we have this

4312
02:59:04,550 --> 02:59:02,000
stuff and nobody talked about it nobody

4313
02:59:06,630 --> 02:59:04,560
has made that public the senate didn't

4314
02:59:09,110 --> 02:59:06,640
know about it the defense department of

4315
02:59:11,190 --> 02:59:09,120
defense didn't know about that that's my

4316
02:59:15,670 --> 02:59:11,200
point that's why that language is in

4317
02:59:16,630 --> 02:59:15,680
there the language being in this budget

4318
02:59:17,910 --> 02:59:16,640
about

4319
02:59:20,950 --> 02:59:17,920
injuries

4320
02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:20,960
to people that come in contact with uaps

4321
02:59:23,190 --> 02:59:21,760
what

4322
02:59:24,710 --> 02:59:23,200
where does that language come it's

4323
02:59:27,190 --> 02:59:24,720
because it's happened

4324
02:59:29,110 --> 02:59:27,200
and nobody has talked about it before

4325
02:59:31,110 --> 02:59:29,120
the reporting hasn't been there they've

4326
02:59:33,670 --> 02:59:31,120
kept this stuff secret

4327
02:59:35,990 --> 02:59:33,680
that's why the language is in there

4328
02:59:39,670 --> 02:59:36,000
there's another part in this which i

4329
02:59:40,870 --> 02:59:39,680
find fascinating which it says

4330
02:59:46,469 --> 02:59:40,880
we need

4331
02:59:48,469 --> 02:59:46,479
with with with our allies

4332
02:59:51,030 --> 02:59:48,479
we need to open up that channel of of

4333
02:59:53,590 --> 02:59:51,040
communication with them why is that in

4334
02:59:55,670 --> 02:59:53,600
there because that information has been

4335
02:59:57,190 --> 02:59:55,680
collected from allies but not shared

4336
02:59:58,870 --> 02:59:57,200
nobody knew about it

4337
03:00:00,469 --> 02:59:58,880
certain agencies are going out there and

4338
03:00:02,710 --> 03:00:00,479
collecting this information and not

4339
03:00:05,110 --> 03:00:02,720
talking to the senate not talking back

4340
03:00:08,870 --> 03:00:05,120
to the military they're sitting on this

4341
03:00:11,670 --> 03:00:08,880
well now that is going to be illegal

4342
03:00:14,950 --> 03:00:11,680
that this two-channel communication when

4343
03:00:16,309 --> 03:00:14,960
it happens needs to be reported and

4344
03:00:18,870 --> 03:00:16,319
documented

4345
03:00:21,349 --> 03:00:18,880
these are huge steps now the

4346
03:00:23,910 --> 03:00:21,359
effectiveness of this

4347
03:00:27,670 --> 03:00:23,920
how much of it is going to actually

4348
03:00:30,389 --> 03:00:27,680
happen how easy is it to implement

4349
03:00:32,230 --> 03:00:30,399
well the secretary of defense says uh

4350
03:00:35,110 --> 03:00:32,240
that he's going to have control of it he

4351
03:00:37,750 --> 03:00:35,120
or she i believe that's the language i

4352
03:00:39,750 --> 03:00:37,760
didn't want to go and read directly from

4353
03:00:41,910 --> 03:00:39,760
the budget but uh

4354
03:00:43,590 --> 03:00:41,920
i will at a certain point i think that

4355
03:00:48,309 --> 03:00:43,600
it has passed

4356
03:00:52,389 --> 03:00:48,319
and so is is it public yet i don't know

4357
03:00:54,550 --> 03:00:52,399
so there you go yes i have i have it and

4358
03:00:55,349 --> 03:00:54,560
i don't want to get in trouble

4359
03:00:59,349 --> 03:00:55,359
so

4360
03:01:01,510 --> 03:00:59,359
with that i want to thank everybody

4361
03:01:03,269 --> 03:01:01,520
tonight for coming in and hanging out

4362
03:01:05,269 --> 03:01:03,279
with us thank you pat stratt that was a

4363
03:01:08,150 --> 03:01:05,279
great phone call right there thank you

4364
03:01:09,190 --> 03:01:08,160
so much i want to thank lou elizondo

4365
03:01:12,230 --> 03:01:09,200
again

4366
03:01:14,150 --> 03:01:12,240
coming in from an undisclosed location

4367
03:01:17,670 --> 03:01:14,160
to hang out here on fade to black to

4368
03:01:20,309 --> 03:01:17,680
talk about all of this it's a very fluid

4369
03:01:21,429 --> 03:01:20,319
breaking situation right now as we move

4370
03:01:24,870 --> 03:01:21,439
forward

4371
03:01:25,990 --> 03:01:24,880
and uh it's it's very cool i just want

4372
03:01:29,190 --> 03:01:26,000
to make sure

4373
03:01:31,670 --> 03:01:29,200
that it gets enforced that's the thing

4374
03:01:35,030 --> 03:01:31,680
you can put in writing we can discuss it

4375
03:01:37,429 --> 03:01:35,040
it's all interesting how effective is it

4376
03:01:40,950 --> 03:01:37,439
it is a big step to turn around and

4377
03:01:44,070 --> 03:01:40,960
dissolve the uap task force

4378
03:01:45,590 --> 03:01:44,080
and bring in another group that's got to

4379
03:01:47,510 --> 03:01:45,600
get named

4380
03:01:50,230 --> 03:01:47,520
and that's got to be public too as well

4381
03:01:52,389 --> 03:01:50,240
right we need to know what's going on

4382
03:01:54,309 --> 03:01:52,399
very interesting

4383
03:01:55,910 --> 03:01:54,319
i'm your host jimmy church fade to black

4384
03:01:57,990 --> 03:01:55,920
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4385
03:01:59,830 --> 03:01:58,000
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4386
03:02:03,030 --> 03:01:59,840
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4387
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4388
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4389
03:02:08,790 --> 03:02:06,640
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4390
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4391
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4392
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4393
03:02:16,870 --> 03:02:14,479
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4394
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4395
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4396
03:02:21,510 --> 03:02:20,240
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4398
03:02:25,349 --> 03:02:23,120
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4399
03:02:28,150 --> 03:02:25,359
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4400
03:02:31,990 --> 03:02:28,160
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4401
03:02:34,710 --> 03:02:32,000
plant medicines and e.t

4402
03:02:36,950 --> 03:02:34,720
it don't get no better but until then i

4403
03:02:42,780 --> 03:02:36,960
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